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bradyc
Joined: Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:19 am Posts: 246
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version 2.1
like the original with a few changes. becomes available somewhere after The Pawlacite Thaw original 120 rounds for 1 completion and 10 Pawlacite 200 energy for each round
same experience you get from origanal
1 completion you get a Mass Surface Melter version 2
8 completions
Mass Surface Melter version 2
Artifact Type: Planet (icy) Set Duration: Permanent Cost in Energy to Use: Artifact Effects: Size: +2, Mining, Artifact, Research: +4 levels (maybe very tiny to average +4 size) Number Available: 8 Alternate Uses: None
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:23 am |
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Billik
Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:40 am Posts: 2812 Location: Just go north, and keep on going.
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Still a -1
We get 5 melters, use them wisely
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:27 am |
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varunjitsingh146
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 am Posts: 5495 Location: Alpha Legion 100
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Billik wrote: Still a -1
We get 5 melters, use them wisely agreed with billik..like i said earlier ways to improve planets are already there in the forms of terraformers and quasis. just have to npc to find them. as for the mission idea 8 is still quite a bit considering the original only gives us 5 and this one has a better effect. maybe if you had to do more to get them and less were available if at all.
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:30 am |
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bradyc
Joined: Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:19 am Posts: 246
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sorry that not a good reason for -1 to limit ice melters anyway its version 2. one thing if its over powered to do some changes.
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:37 am |
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Darth Scabrous
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:20 am Posts: 937
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Its a damn good reason to -1 this. Use your melters wisely, and stop trying to get free handouts. You want more melters, then get off your lazy ass, npc more, and save up ctp to buy melters from some other poor sap.
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:46 am |
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Ko-Chan
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:51 am Posts: 515
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How's this: The Super-Duper Pawlacite Thaw Unlocks at rank 500 100 rounds of 10 clicks, 10 energy and 10 pawlacite per click Reward: Super-Duper Mass Surface Melter - Increases size of Icy planet by 10, +50 to all resources I think my idea BLOWS yours away 
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:55 am |
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Sparky
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:00 pm Posts: 2419
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Ko-Chan wrote: How's this: The Super-Duper Pawlacite Thaw Unlocks at rank 500 100 rounds of 10 clicks, 10 energy and 10 pawlacite per click Reward: Super-Duper Mass Surface Melter - Increases size of Icy planet by 10, +50 to all resources I think my idea BLOWS yours away  +1 , Dan you must add this suggestion immediately 
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:56 am |
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Common
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:39 am Posts: 334
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Exactly. i concur with Billik, Varun, and Darth Scarborous.
Why should dan give high value artifacts for free, you're proposing that Dan make an artifact equivalent to 2 QSEs and 4 Terraformers, in addition, this artifact has potential to make Mega-Colossal planets. This kinda artifact will penalize Dan's income. You get five melters and only ever get five, no more. Go hunt NPCs for terraformers and QSEs. Enough said and done to justify the -1.
If you've not seen already, noone has given you any merit or a +1 throughout your entire thread, isn't that enough of an omen? Even if you don't understand our logic as to why we gave it a -1, surely you would see that everyone thinks it's a bad idea and through complex deductive reasoning, you would figure out that this is a bad idea.
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:03 am |
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Common
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:39 am Posts: 334
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:09 am |
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TimeManipulator
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:13 pm Posts: 2711 Location: Somewhere trying to find a way to increase the use of Time Manipulators.
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bradyc wrote: sorry that not a good reason for -1 to limit ice melters anyway its version 2. one thing if its over powered to do some changes. So your saying Pawlecite Thaw gets another version but not the others? How about making a rift 2.0? a mission dyson 2.0? OP right? making versions that improves any planet enhancers are OP, not to mention pointless unless there's a reason to it which you don't. Why do you want another version of Mass surface melter anyway? Can't afford to buy QSE's? Then farm for it like what other players are doing.
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:24 am |
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stuffybeary
Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:59 am Posts: 748 Location: space
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why would it take 34k energy just to get one? maybe if it was a mission chain but like all your other suggestions -1. only players that could autorank off of missions would actually want to do it, it's way to OP. there's a reason he made it a one time mission and only things that have flaws should be redone such as exotica.
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:35 am |
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Ko-Chan
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:51 am Posts: 515
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HAHAHA my favorite quote from one of my favorite movies! LMAO Sean Penn. I Am Sam.
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:46 am |
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bradyc
Joined: Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:19 am Posts: 246
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Ko-Chan wrote: How's this: The Super-Duper Pawlacite Thaw Unlocks at rank 500 100 rounds of 10 clicks, 10 energy and 10 pawlacite per click Reward: Super-Duper Mass Surface Melter - Increases size of Icy planet by 10, +50 to all resources I think my idea BLOWS yours away  you complain of my original version. his is way to over powered. your logic does not compute. error>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:39 am |
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Crhistian
Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:41 am Posts: 216
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bradyc wrote: Ko-Chan wrote: How's this: The Super-Duper Pawlacite Thaw Unlocks at rank 500 100 rounds of 10 clicks, 10 energy and 10 pawlacite per click Reward: Super-Duper Mass Surface Melter - Increases size of Icy planet by 10, +50 to all resources I think my idea BLOWS yours away  you complain of my original version. his is way to over powered. your logic does not compute. error>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so while you are busy making terrible suggestions, you are too busy to catch some subtle sarcasm also?
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:51 am |
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Common
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:39 am Posts: 334
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bradyc wrote: you complain of my original version. his is way to over powered. your logic does not compute. error>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:43 am |
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Silens
Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:42 am Posts: 779
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+4 size on a very massive Icy planet will exceed Mega Colossal in size.
-1
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:35 am |
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DarthRavadge
Joined: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:26 pm Posts: 1621 Location: Orbiting the ruins of your base
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bradyc wrote: version 2.1
like the original with a few changes. becomes available somewhere after The Pawlacite Thaw original 120 rounds for 1 completion and 10 Pawlacite 200 energy for each round
same experience you get from origanal
1 completion you get a Mass Surface Melter version 2
8 completions
Mass Surface Melter version 2 Un-grey requirement : Rank 10,000 Artifact Type: Planet (icy) Set Duration: Permanent Cost in Energy to Use: Artifact Effects: Size: +2, Mining, Artifact, Research: +4 levels (maybe very tiny to average +4 size) Number Available: 8 Alternate Uses: None Time to play devil's advocate!  This would be perfect with this one new addition...
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:58 am |
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Hawkeblade
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:29 pm Posts: 3022
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Common wrote: bradyc wrote: Billik i have not done that mission. You need to be smarter than that. Are you bloody kiddin' me? You're telling us to be smarter? By looking at your posts, you are anything BUT smart. ( You're damn rank 400 who hasn't done this mission yet?!) i havent done it either...
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:15 am |
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Wolfy Minion
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:16 am Posts: 2737
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ooo I got it
nerf the size increase only +1 and make it work on other types of planets.
like deserts into.... hmmm... crystals x 10
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toxics into say....irradiated x 15
OR OR
barrens into sentients x 5
OR this is a big one but Dan might go for it...
make a mission that requires terraformers and make a stock planet into an invincible exotic with near maxed stats like M 13x There could be a chain maybe make a dyson too
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:41 am |
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KJReed
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:08 am Posts: 3142
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Littlefluffy wrote: ooo I got it
nerf the size increase only +1 and make it work on other types of planets.
like deserts into.... hmmm... crystals x 10
or
toxics into say....irradiated x 15
OR OR
barrens into sentients x 5
OR this is a big one but Dan might go for it...
make a mission that requires terraformers and make a stock planet into an invincible exotic with near maxed stats like M 13x There could be a chain maybe make a dyson too +1 Dan should add this immediately.
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:22 pm |
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