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zakwas
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:06 pm Posts: 265
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Couple months ago one of my friends lost 20x colossal arti he claimed he had over 22k cloak on it...first i thought he was mistaken and had much less cloak (the person that took it wasnt even explorer)
anyways today one of my legionmates scanned planet with over 20k cloak and he had only little over 12k scan!
cant tell you how exactly the planet looked like since he took it apart after invading but it had 3856 passive cloak and the 20% ergosphere + the 25% meta tuned jammer
CLOAK DOES NOT WORK!
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:35 pm |
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icarium81
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 3056
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if the player is INACTIVE, then the cloak becomes null. pretty shtty deal to be honest, but yeah.. thats how it goes.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:46 pm |
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zakwas
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:06 pm Posts: 265
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owner was/is active
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:52 pm |
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icarium81
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 3056
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oh. dont know what to say then.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:53 pm |
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Oexarity
Joined: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:19 pm Posts: 372
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I believe it's not a direct your scan < their cloak makes them impossible to find. Unlikely, yes. However, I have a planet scanned with abour 4k cloak on it, and I can tell you for a fact that I've never had more than 2.5k scan on.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:58 pm |
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ODragon
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:16 am Posts: 3824
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Oexarity wrote: I believe it's not a direct your scan < their cloak makes them impossible to find. Unlikely, yes. However, I have a planet scanned with abour 4k cloak on it, and I can tell you for a fact that I've never had more than 2.5k scan on. Except I believe Dan previously said that Cloak > Scan = no find.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:05 pm |
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Oexarity
Joined: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:19 pm Posts: 372
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ODragon wrote: Oexarity wrote: I believe it's not a direct your scan < their cloak makes them impossible to find. Unlikely, yes. However, I have a planet scanned with abour 4k cloak on it, and I can tell you for a fact that I've never had more than 2.5k scan on. Except I believe Dan previously said that Cloak > Scan = no find. Well then... No clue.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:06 pm |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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ODragon is correct. Dan has stated unequivocably that Cloak > Scan equals no chance. When Scan >= Cloak, THEN there is a chance roll involved.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:13 pm |
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itsSoulPLayAgain
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:30 am Posts: 4230
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Darth Flagitious wrote: ODragon is correct. Dan has stated unequivocably that Cloak > Scan equals no chance. When Scan >= Cloak, THEN there is a chance roll involved. I have scaned planets With over 10% more cloak then i had scan. I resently had just under 14k scan. I scaned a planet with over 15.5k cloak. I have seen this done alot. I thought cloak works in like when you take a planet your scan VS the cloak and it comes down to the luck of the dice a percent chance cloak lessens the percent ?? If it is not like that then , There's a game issue cause I my self have fond planets and I have seen many others do the same. But I think im right .. Maybe?? Im almost always right. Oww and yes they where very active players..Maybe. He most did react.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:44 pm |
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Oexarity
Joined: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:19 pm Posts: 372
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Possibly legion bonus doesn't work correctly for cloak?
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:46 pm |
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thunderbolta
Joined: Sat May 07, 2011 11:01 am Posts: 5825 Location: Zolar
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Or one of the recent +%Cloak modules. They certainly need to look into this.
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Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:33 am |
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sabre1
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:58 pm Posts: 34
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Sorry to bring this up again, but I'd also like some clarity on this one. I have also managed to scan a planet with more cloak than I have scan. Is this normal? I wasn't complaining then, but it would suck to lose one of my premium planets if the assumption of if cloak > scan = no find is false!
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:22 am |
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Uy23e
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:04 am Posts: 1998
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if u find a planet with more cloak than ur scan drop a governance on it. supposed to only be able to do that to inactive players, so lets see if that's true.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:56 am |
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itsSoulPLayAgain
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:30 am Posts: 4230
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Uy23e wrote: if u find a planet with more cloak than ur scan drop a governance on it. supposed to only be able to do that to inactive players, so lets see if that's true. It's not true I have scanned planets owned by active players hat had more cloak then my scan.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:53 pm |
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Common
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:39 am Posts: 334
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Darth Flagitious wrote: ODragon is correct. Dan has stated unequivocably that Cloak > Scan equals no chance. When Scan >= Cloak, THEN there is a chance roll involved. Is there any testimony to verify Dan's statement? - i feel Scan/Cloak system of planets works much the same way as planet invasion - Cloak has only a 90% chance of blocking scan, no matter how high cloak is - same with invading planets, not matter how much invasion attack you have, you're best odds are 90% invasion chance... I remember that people were able to scan planets under the effects of flux storm (+ 50,000 Cloak)
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:57 pm |
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thunderbolta
Joined: Sat May 07, 2011 11:01 am Posts: 5825 Location: Zolar
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Flux Storm was bugged, and was removed. 
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:59 pm |
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kirkeastment
Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:24 pm Posts: 2810 Location: UK
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Common wrote: Darth Flagitious wrote: ODragon is correct. Dan has stated unequivocably that Cloak > Scan equals no chance. When Scan >= Cloak, THEN there is a chance roll involved. Is there any testimony to verify Dan's statement? - i feel Scan/Cloak system of planets works much the same way as planet invasion - Cloak has only a 90% chance of blocking scan, no matter how high cloak is - same with invading planets, not matter how much invasion attack you have, you're best odds are 90% invasion chance... I remember that people were able to scan planets under the effects of flux storm (+ 50,000 Cloak) Which was when Dan posted saying that this should not have been possible, and he quickly removed flux storms from the game. webguydan wrote: We'll check into that. I assume you mean the scan happened *after* the flux storm already occurred? If not, that would be normal. viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17199&start=0&hilit=storm
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:59 pm |
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ODragon
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:16 am Posts: 3824
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Common wrote: Is there any testimony to verify Dan's statement? Can only go by what Dan said: webguydan wrote: If the planet has cloak, and your scan is not as high as its cloak, you will not be able to scan it (this is the same as before).
If your scan is higher than the planet's cloak, then there is a *chance* that you will be unsuccessful in finding it during your scan (this is new).
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:18 pm |
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kioras
Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:00 am Posts: 9
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Didn't think anything of it.
But on my recent scan binge, with a little more then about 10k scan, i scanned a planet with 17.6k cloak, a mission dyson.
I am pretty sure the person is active also.
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Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:51 am |
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smallestLIGHT
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:35 am Posts: 354
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I cant believe Dan has not even commented on this one, it is extremely disturbing to think that my best planets are literally undefended. Many of these planets represent actual cash investments and I for one will not be spending another sent until this problem is confirmed fixed.
Surely this is currently the worst bug in the game and im dumbfounded at the lack of developers response.
Not even a 'im looking into it' i have to say im a bit disappointed.
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Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:31 pm |
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