EMPHATIC -1

having started and run my own legion makes me a BETTER candidate for another legion.

Dan has put in rank requirements for some game elements, but most of the game is wide open for players to experience and there is absolutely no reason that an fb-platformed game should have ANY restrictions on friends playing with each other ... the idea is completely nonsensical.

there is no reason friends cannot play together. there are tons of legions with enough space to accommodate a fair group.

maybe make the requirements, but by sending something to dan they can be over ridden. means that the rank tens cant just be making bases at a whim, but if someone really really wants to start out on their own they can.

I'm sorry, but what'll that cost in GP? as you know it'll end up as a GP item >.> much like how we used to be able to contact dan for name changes, and now we gotta pay 26GP per change.

first ill say your correct on the factors that cause people to stay or leave. but your interpretation may need tweeking.
1st is interest and there are so many factors into weather someone stays or go but 1 factor is interaction which is your 3rd point and forcing someone into an established legion gives interaction. so having them join an established legion helps them learn the game and gives them information on how to play and what to do. i dont know that we need a level restriction but i would say level 50 is appropriate. maybe we should take a hint from WoW in WoW you need 10 people to start a guild that might be high for GL but maybe we could restrict it to 5 people again thats not an insurmountable number but does make sure lower levels know people before they can start one. this helps 2 way it helps fill up legions and it helps create interaction which generally helps keep people interested in an mmo.

2 things here.
First, -1.
Secondly, did I seriously just read this entire thread?

Wanna give your reasons why ?

Forcing players to join legions is bad. People play games for the freedom they offer. Would you play a game where you were restricted to doing one thing only? It's freedom that compells people to play games: Freedom from life, rules, problems etc. When people are forced into legions it makes them feel helpless or in control of their actions. No one likes to play a game like that.

But lets not stop there. Let's go to the fact that many new players do not or simply refuse to communicate with most likely because of the lack of experience. How are you going to contact a 4 other low level players to start a legion? Not so easy, and since it's hard to communicate with a new player they will leave before they get to understand the game. Having a minimum player requirement for legions is bad.

you are speaking about what you cannot know as if it is fact.

where is anyone forced to join a legion in any of these suggestions? you can play by yourself if you want.
you do know there already is a minimum rank right? we just think it should be upped.
i not sure how i feel about the requiring a group but then again



those are EXACTLY the people we DONT want making legions.
these tiny legions created by people who you admit have no clue what they are doing generally attract a small amount of players, arent very active, dont buy gp, and quit in a short amount of time.
im sure a good portion of these people would still be active players, had they been in an active legion.

there is no reason they need to be able to make their own legion that early. almost all games have things you cannot do untill you are higher leveled.
right now there is a restriction on it, but its so small its almost insignificant.

if a group of friends wants to do this, that is THEIR CHOICE ! forcing players to join a legion that does not fit their playstyle will drive just as many people away from the game. sometimes a game just doesn't click with a player and that's just fine.

where does it say which legion they have to join?
no ones saying people should be assigned legions.
and the whole "group of friends" thing is a small percentage of what we are talking about

but since people keep railing on it how about making two sets of criteria that can be met?
the ones listed here (or similar ones), OR have a group of 5 people to start with.

also side bar here, but what makes it their choice in the first place?
as far as i can see its just dan not prohibiting it. in no game i know of can you do whatever you choose to do.

Have you ever played or heard of Minecraft?

you try playing GL and defending your planets without that all important 100% legion bonus. (using a full legion as an example)

also



what was this then? if not an attempt to force players to join legions before starting their own, whether it be with friends, random people they've attracted, or spirits from the bloody ether.

as for your suggestion that we have 2 sets of criteria, with a minimum of 5 people OR the proposed rank increase, my friends and I would have left the game long ago as there were only 3 of us that joined. Your suggestion actually encourages multi-accounting just to circumvent this.

first you wouldnt get 100% you would get 2% because you were by yourself. 2nd almost all games have some type of restriction on legion,guild ,battle group type formations. and most of the restrictions are level and number. thats what we are asking for because it does more to help and encourage new players then it does to discourage.

Zom, are you some form of idiot? I'm sorry but seriously can you read? what part of "Without that all important 100% legion bonus" did you not understand? I don't think I can dumb it down anymore than I already have.

As for your "it'll do more good than harm" bull, Explain how it could possibly be benificial to deter new players from staying because of unfair restrictions on interacting with people? If they choose to join a large legion, good for them~ if they want to work hard with just a few friends and earn everything they get, kudos to them. Regardless, it should be their choice from rank 10, rank 25 at the outer limit.

Zom, are you some form of idiot? I'm sorry but seriously can you read? what part of "Without that all important 100% legion bonus" did you not understand? I don't think I can dumb it down anymore than I already have.

As for your "it'll do more good than harm" bull, Explain how it could possibly be benificial to deter new players from staying because of unfair restrictions on interacting with people? If they choose to join a large legion, good for them~ if they want to work hard with just a few friends and earn everything they get, kudos to them. Regardless, it should be their choice from rank 10, rank 25 at the outer limit.[/quote]

i apologize i miss read your first comment 2nd are you just some sort #$&*$# or is your first reaction to call someone a name because they disagree with you or make a mistake.

as for your next comment have you ever played any form of an mmo all of them have legion type structures! all of them have restrictions on how they are formed! most have level and most have number requirements and most of those games have decent participation. forcing people to interact with other people for more protection and better loot and more information is practiced in every game. and yes it is more beneficial always to be in a group of people who know what they are doing and are there to help you with goods and knowledge. the fact that you and other people cant seem to understand that having a single player by themselves with no knowledge hurts the game ill never understand! on top of the fact that a number of other people join with them into a legion of couple of people without anyone knowing what just causes all of them to quit. having them join a legion with 5 or more people or waiting till they reach say level 30 or 40 is not unreasonable. will some people quit yes! but the odds are more people quit now because they dont know what to do or stuck in a no win situation by themselves or with a number of other people who have no idea what to do.

My apologises for the reaction i gave, I've been dealing with alot of idiots lately ^^;

as for the mmo stuff, I play guild wars 2~ I was able to create a guild (legion) with the same number of people that I managed to with galaxy legion~ in both instances my legion/guild has expanded from the 3 people that originally started. None of my legion knew what we were doing when we first started GL, and yet we've done quite a bit in the year we've been on.

Raising the legion requirement is likely to increase the number of people by themselves. I wouldn't want to join a large established legion as I like to make my own path, not someone else's.

My sole question is... Why? What does this accomplish at all for anyone? 1000 energy is quite a significant amount when you start out in the beginning (I didn't create my own legion when I started because 50 energy was too much ); no new legions will rise...

Sure, it may create some stronger legions, but only a select few will actually continue to play the game--- most will leave.

i apologize i miss read your first comment 2nd are you just some sort #$&*$# or is your first reaction to call someone a name because they disagree with you or make a mistake.

as for your next comment have you ever played any form of an mmo all of them have legion type structures! all of them have restrictions on how they are formed! most have level and most have number requirements and most of those games have decent participation. forcing people to interact with other people for more protection and better loot and more information is practiced in every game. and yes it is more beneficial always to be in a group of people who know what they are doing and are there to help you with goods and knowledge. the fact that you and other people cant seem to understand that having a single player by themselves with no knowledge hurts the game ill never understand! on top of the fact that a number of other people join with them into a legion of couple of people without anyone knowing what just causes all of them to quit. having them join a legion with 5 or more people or waiting till they reach say level 30 or 40 is not unreasonable. will some people quit yes! but the odds are more people quit now because they dont know what to do or stuck in a no win situation by themselves or with a number of other people who have no idea what to do.[/quote]

Yeah, it's called owning a Premium Account

Yeah, they use multis.

the majority of the players we are talking about NEVER will get that 100% bonus. maybe 8 10 maybe 20 percent.
and yes i would want to see players be in a larger active legion before they create their own as most of the ones created just attract a few players and bring them all down together.

so you are saying you will play no game where you cant be the leader right from the beginning? while that is possibly true for you i do not believe that to be the case for most people.
a group smaller than 5 could easily find a place together in some legion.