ATTENTION: This thread is not an attempt to whine or cry about things. I am legitimately seeking the advice of the more experienced players. If after reading below, you have nothing constructive to say, kindly please say nothing at all.

I am IGN Caruso, leader of the legion Suits. We are about 5 months old, sitting at level 4. A couple weeks back my players were getting picked on by a player with an impressive ship, who belongs to a top 40 legion. This player began zeoring each member of mine he encountered, and threatining them, insulting them, or threatening and insulting me as I was the leader of the legion. He was alerted and i did not attack him.

Note: I have a laughable ship and have dedicated most of my efforts since rank 100 toward supporting my legion.

I posted on his comm and sent officer comms to his legion, asking that he stop bullying my legion. It took a long time and eventually they agreed to have him at least stop zeoring my players. Within 8 hours a legion mate posted 5 new raids on our facebook page. I commed them again and they did nothing about it.

After that point I told my member to alert him again, and I disabled him. This player had a total of 35 or 36 disables. He is now up to 45. I have personally disabled him around 6 times (not an easy task for me) and another member of mine once. However, after the second time I disabled him, he alerted me. His top 40 legion pounded my ship and zeroed me, and possibly had a spy in our legion. An anonymous member joined right as this conflict ended, and left just as it looked as it was ending. Also, every time I was disable during this period, I happened to be offline....

Anyway, as it currently stands this player has threatened to alert me every time I hit him. Even worse, after each time he attacks me, he disables himself on base or an elite npc, so that I cannot disable him back. And each time he alerts me, FOR A BADGE HIT, his very powerful legion reigns down on me.

So I'm just wondering, what more can I do to stand up for myself and my legion? If you have any further questions or need somethign clarified please ask. And again, please refrain from the flaming as much as possible.


Thanks all!

Caruso

If your diplomacy with them was anything like your diplomacy with us... I wouldn't be surprised if they refused to do anything to help you.

I don't even recall dealing with you?

It was only yesterday, jeez. You want the log?

Oh my goodness, about that Rtrtr guy? He was beign an idiot, I just let you know about it. That wasn't even diplomacy. Please don't spam this thread anymore.

See if you can get a mercenary in to help deal with him. zero his raids when he dissables himself and hack him until you get one of his planets. Im sure he will be more co-operative when hes threatened with something that will actualy effect him. Kill yourself on planets like him and install lots of sensors before you log of to mimimze what his legion can do

Hm.. thats good advice. I could switch my ship up to hack better. Seriously, he has an impressive ship and I have to use artis to even hack him right now! But what if they have may players' planets on scan already? I worried that since his legion is supporting his brute behavior, anything I do will have a response 10x a harsh. If I steal one planet of his, they might nab 10 of mine :/


Any mercernaries out there looking for some fun!?

Hum, interesting. Well first off, good job being alert to spying. It is an epidemic around here. It really doesn't matter what legion or how high rank, someone is telling on someone. hahaha

But even with that said, it will always be more likely you would be disabled when you are off line anyway. I mean, if you have a decent enough ship and you know how to spam traps/ repairs, you should be able to withstand an online attack if you are over rank 100 (depending of course on the number of attackers and their damage).

Now as to how you fight back, there are really only 2 ways. First, you calling in bounty hunters or otherwise ally yourself with bigger legions and have them attack the one who is bullying you. Second, you pick just a couple of your ships and focus all your fire on the one doing the bullying. Since you have already stated that their legion is stronger, then you know you can't fight the whole group. But if you take a crack commando squad and just lay into the bully, you might make the fighting worth while. You will lose more deaths. You will lose more raids, but you might get lucky with a crit planet steal. I have said this before. I have both done it and had it done to me (shout out to Bloody9). The lower rank must pin its hopes on stealing a planet to balance out the conflict. It's either that, or disengage and surrender.

Cms and debuffs can also work well if you keep an eye on him.

Make him do nothing but missions while he is in your feed.

If you can bring an alert over to me i can have a play with him give him a taste of some proper pvp

Just haclyon trap, quantum. And bring yourself to EotS, alert everyone of those players, EotS will have.some nice playdough to play with.

I'm The Master, a leader at Galactic Crusaders.



Caruso, he zeroed some people on his battle tab, he didn't harass your legion. Your people were more than welcome to zero him back.



By posting, you mean whining. Also, you guys reached a truce that he UPHELD. When we offered you a second truce, you wanted to be able to hit him and zero him without ANY retaliation on his part.

After you said no, no truce, I want this, I want that, and generally babied around, you finally accepted a two day NAP with our legion so that your legion and he could both fall off of each others logs. When that expired, it was understood that hitting people on the Battle Tab would be fine. It's also my understanding that YOU went and targeted him first after the truce!



My suggestion to you is this: Stop letting your legion alert for BT hits. Teach them how to zero someone back, using artifacts if necessary. Improve your base if they need more artifacts. He is NOT targeting your legion.

The whining about us not doing anything to solve the issue is a lie. We communicated with caruso via the legion-to-legion officer comm, which he spammed, refusing to accept a truce. We even had a FB meeting that was mediated by a 3rd party, which ended in the 48 hour NAP between our 2 legions. Once it ended Caruso hunted down the player from our legion he has issues with, arti spammed and disabled him. Doesn't sound like someone who is trying to take the high road, does it?

If anyone comes across Caruso's comm, it should be clear it is not Galactic Crusaders who is being unfair in this situation. He seems to have similar issues across the galaxy.


-Bonny
A leader at Galactic Crusaders


PS: General advice on dealing with a stronger legion, if they offer a truce or NAP you accept, and don't make a fuss.

Yo both, as leaders, are misinformed. Avenge targeted my players, threatened my players, and stated he was targetting them. He called me a "coward" on my comm and my players' comms. He urged me to attack him when I only messaged him and your legion. Galactic Crusaders offered the FIRST TRUCE. Within hours Avenge had broken the truce by not only attacking, but zeroing a player in my legion.

Initially a Leader from GC stated it was my and my legion's issue to resolve with Avenge and that they would not get involved. Avenge similiarly stated that he would not go running back to his legion, but that he was handling his own situation himself. AS SOON as I begin retaliating to Avenge, he alerted me and his mates attacked me. Both against their words of the truce and of not involving the legion as a whole.

After that situation Avenge vowed he would no longer zero my players unless they appeared in his news feed. Otherwise he would only go for bt badge hits. I agreed to this, and disabled him again, fully accepting his ability and promise to zero me back. He then accused me of breaking the "truce" because I attacked him. But the agreement, as I just stated, was that if my players ended up on his feed, he would zero. He went crying back to his legion and alerted me.

Then Yes, we brought in a third party. That negotiation was pretty fruitless, but eventually a 2 day NP took place. This was upheld for two days. Then they broke it voluntarily. Then I found Avenge on my bt, and disabled him again. And again, he went whining back to his legion, alerted me. I would have thought that a top 40 legion would resist enforcing alerts for badge hits. Yet that have on multiple occassions. I have never broken any truce. I spent two days trying to communicate with Avenge and his legion, and he spent those two days continuing to zero my players and call me out.

Now I am retailating. Avenge is sniping me when he can and disabling himself so he can hide, and having his players, up to rank 908 fight the war he started. Funny, he called me a "coward" in the beginning, and now he is the one hidng behind suicides and a comparatively massive legion.

I have only ever asked two things of Avenge or the Galactic Crusaders. FIRST I asked them to leave me and my legion alone. When this was clearly going to happen I SECOND asked his legion to stay out of it, and let this be between Avenge and me/my legion since he started this whole issue and ASKED (literally calling me out and calling me names and challenging my leadership, and threatning to CONTINUTE TO TARGET my players if I did not retalitae him) for it. They have refused even this, and continue to hack/raid/disable me.

My suggestion to you is this: Stop letting your legion alert for BT hits. Teach them how to zero someone back, using artifacts if necessary. Improve your base if they need more artifacts. He is NOT targeting your legion.[/quote]



FUNNY!!!!! I have NEVER let my legionmates alert for a bt hit. Zeroing a ship is not a bt hit. Multiple zeros is DEFINITELY not a bt hit. THIS IS WHAT YOUR LEGION DOES. Your legion has ONLY alerted for BT hits.


Furthermore, The Master, I do not appreciate you blocking comms from my legion and then sending my legion a comm inviting us to your little training legion. We obviously want NOTHING to do with you and have made that clear.


Edit: Most recent comm from Avenge: From: Avenge
Message Posted on your Comm: Every hit done against me now will result in an alert. Nobody cares about your whiny comms, its actually hilarious.Keep on attacking and face the consequences,your choice

to me it sounds like the the little guy in the big legion really didnt want to deal with it himself, and called his legion in.

i wouldnt accept a truce where i got hit and that meant i wasnt allowed to hit back.

the little guy in the big legion = Avenge??

If he didn't want to deal with it then he wouldn't have startet targeting and zeroing my players and calling me a coward on their comms. I asked him several times stop before I attacked him.

yeah im saying he said hed deal with what he got himself into and then didnt.

Oh Caruso. We didn't block your comms. We simply started ignoring them. If we replied to every message you sent us, none of us would have time to actually play the game.

It's as simple as I said earlier: Avenge BT'd some people. You took it very badly, and started comm spamming. Eventually, you were alerted, not because Avenge couldn't handle you, but because you are ANNOYING. We thought you might stop. Then, we, the big guys, offered you a temporary NAP. After the NAP, you went and found Avenge and started it all over again.

This is all your fault amigo. Fall off of Avenge's log, or keep attacking him, we don't care.



Remember, only YOU can prevent forest fires.

Also, to any members of Caruso's legion Suits: Feel free to apply at Crusaders Academy! At CA, you'll get world class advice on gameplay, plenty of artifacts to help you out, and a group of people that are fun to play with!