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quote"KxG Ryoko"
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where is anyone forced to join a legion in any of these suggestions? you can play by yourself if you want.


you try playing GL and defending your planets without that all important 100% legion bonus. (using a full legion as an example)

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What I would like to see though, but nit sure how it would work programming wise, would be to require players have been a part of an established legion for so long prior to making their own.
Numbers can change, but I was thinking a month or two in a legion with 25 or 30 plus members.


what was this then? if not an attempt to force players to join legions before starting their own, whether it be with friends, random people they've attracted, or spirits from the bloody ether.

as for your suggestion that we have 2 sets of criteria, with a minimum of 5 people OR the proposed rank increase, my friends and I would have left the game long ago as there were only 3 of us that joined. Your suggestion actually encourages multi-accounting just to circumvent this.



first you wouldnt get 100% you would get 2% because you were by yourself. 2nd almost all games have some type of restriction on legion,guild ,battle group type formations. and most of the restrictions are level and number. thats what we are asking for because it does more to help and encourage new players then it does to discourage.


Zom, are you some form of idiot? I'm sorry but seriously can you read? what part of "Without that all important 100% legion bonus" did you not understand? I don't think I can dumb it down anymore than I already have.

As for your "it'll do more good than harm" bull, Explain how it could possibly be benificial to deter new players from staying because of unfair restrictions on interacting with people? If they choose to join a large legion, good for them~ if they want to work hard with just a few friends and earn everything they get, kudos to them. Regardless, it should be their choice from rank 10, rank 25 at the outer limit.
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why are those restrictions unfair?
i think its unfair that they GET to make those legions, and deprive tons of people from playing gl to its fullest extent.
how exactly are you saying their interactions would be restricted?
and if they want to work hard with a few friends fine, there is no reason they cannot play a bit first and THEN start a legion together.
the group of friends argument represents a minuscule portion of this population anyways.
the majority are made by singular players who dont know what they are doing, and then joined by a few other random players who also dont know what they are doing.
with no one present knowing what they are doing, and a high probability for low interaction the majority of these groups die out. still not knowing what they are or were doing.

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Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:57 am
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i apologize i miss read your first comment 2nd are you just some sort #$&*$# or is your first reaction to call someone a name because they disagree with you or make a mistake.

as for your next comment have you ever played any form of an mmo all of them have legion type structures! all of them have restrictions on how they are formed! most have level and most have number requirements and most of those games have decent participation. forcing people to interact with other people for more protection and better loot and more information is practiced in every game. and yes it is more beneficial always to be in a group of people who know what they are doing and are there to help you with goods and knowledge. the fact that you and other people cant seem to understand that having a single player by themselves with no knowledge hurts the game ill never understand! on top of the fact that a number of other people join with them into a legion of couple of people without anyone knowing what just causes all of them to quit. having them join a legion with 5 or more people or waiting till they reach say level 30 or 40 is not unreasonable. will some people quit yes! but the odds are more people quit now because they dont know what to do or stuck in a no win situation by themselves or with a number of other people who have no idea what to do.


My apologises for the reaction i gave, I've been dealing with alot of idiots lately ^^;

as for the mmo stuff, I play guild wars 2~ I was able to create a guild (legion) with the same number of people that I managed to with galaxy legion~ in both instances my legion/guild has expanded from the 3 people that originally started. None of my legion knew what we were doing when we first started GL, and yet we've done quite a bit in the year we've been on.

Raising the legion requirement is likely to increase the number of people by themselves. I wouldn't want to join a large established legion as I like to make my own path, not someone else's.

it may increase the number who are stubborn enough to not join a legion, because they are dead set on their own, but if they are really that stubborn then they will get there eventually.
it will however make less group of 2,3,5, and other small groups that for the most part end up dying out.

i understand that you and your friends started out with your own legion early, and have done ok, but you have to understand the majority of these legions are not created the same way.

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Maybe I'm just being stubborn, but I think that restrictions should be made with the minority cases in mind. As you've said, my friends and I have done fairly well for ourselves~ if the updated restrictions were in place, that success wouldn't have happened.

Personally, I'd like something implemented to save the new players from get stuck in dying/dead legions that they aren't atleast officer in (so they don't see the officer comms that offer them a place in a more active guild).

I would also support a small rise in the min rank~ but not the suggested rank 100+. getting to rank 300 took me just over a year or so. so working backwards(totally wrong btw, but can't remember when I hit 100), that'd mean I'd been in GL over 4 months before hitting that requirement. would you have stuck around that long to make a legion, or would you have moved on to another game already?


as for in one of the previous posts, where I mentioned their interactions being restricted by being forced to join a larger legion first. I meant that as my friends and I would chat and discuss the things we needed to do, such as how we were outfitting our base. In a larger legion, we wouldn't have learned any of that because we'd likely have not been involved in any discussion on that.

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+1, I'd like to see a minimum rank of at least 50 (preferably 100) to start a legion.

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