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How about artifacts that reduce your deck size.

Say you want to redesign, change your game style, instead of resetting account, you could reduce your ship size to make it this (in)famous SSB (Small Ship Build) until you are happy with your ship.

Yeah.. I know.. "what about all those who reset"... yes they will be at a disadvantage.. Every change will benefit some more than others.


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NO NO NO NO.

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No no no.
Those who run ssbs had to have major disadvantages, and pains such as module rearrangement since day 1.
There are plenty if similar others topics that also included many other reasons.

If IF something is to happen the costs need to be ridiculous

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hmmm, lets see, all the perks of ranking up and enjoying a larger ship build with defence and cloak/scan, whatever else you may want... get to rank 600+ and reduce your ship in size by dropping all defence and hull modules.. and whatever else isnt needed.. maybe even weapons if you have the tac officers to support it...

so you go from a damage cap based on ship size and actual defence, to exactly what your rank cap would be... hmm, i dont see any problems with that.. my hull would only be 35K, with 15K shields, and a damage cap of ~450.. nope no problems at all with this suggestion.

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Suggested a million times by players who added lots of decks at the start and are now complaining because ships that had enough dedication to keep decks low are harder to kill each one deserves and gets the same exact response. NO!

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No... Just no... If you want to turn into an SSB, just stop getting decks and let your rank eventually catch up while you spam crew members every rank.

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While the idea makes sense, as in the ability to reconfigure your ship i have to agree with the above people. Now if we had the option to buy a new ship, and keep what we already have that would be different. Using this idea being able to switch between ships in your settings tab. Effectivly like having another account, but you wouldnt be able to send arties to yourself, so no real fear of multi abuse, the only thing would be planets....

Basically youd have 2 ships one that was already built and 1 that is just starting. The just starting one would effectivly be level1 ship, just you wouldnt have to reset.

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While the idea makes sense, as in the ability to reconfigure your ship i have to agree with the above people. Now if we had the option to buy a new ship, and keep what we already have that would be different. Using this idea being able to switch between ships in your settings tab. Effectivly like having another account, but you wouldnt be able to send arties to yourself, so no real fear of multi abuse, the only thing would be planets....

Basically youd have 2 ships one that was already built and 1 that is just starting. The just starting one would effectivly be level1 ship, just you wouldnt have to reset.


Interesting idea, might be onto something here.

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While the idea makes sense, as in the ability to reconfigure your ship i have to agree with the above people. Now if we had the option to buy a new ship, and keep what we already have that would be different. Using this idea being able to switch between ships in your settings tab. Effectivly like having another account, but you wouldnt be able to send arties to yourself, so no real fear of multi abuse, the only thing would be planets....

Basically youd have 2 ships one that was already built and 1 that is just starting. The just starting one would effectivly be level1 ship, just you wouldnt have to reset.

that sounds interesting.

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> Anti-Ship bots come out
> Mento with his mighty AP gets tonnes
> Mento reduces his ship size to 20
> Mento keeps all of his tactical officers/helmsmen
> Mento takes over the galaxy and we are all slaves unto his will

A big + 1 from me :D

Not really; the idea has been posed in the past and it's terrible.

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How about artifacts that reduce your deck size.

Say you want to redesign, change your game style, instead of resetting account, you could reduce your ship size to make it this (in)famous SSB (Small Ship Build) until you are happy with your ship.

Yeah.. I know.. "what about all those who reset"... yes they will be at a disadvantage.. Every change will benefit some more than others.


In layman's terms. Your damage cap (the maximum amount of damage you can take in any form of combat, be it pvp, npc, or base) is determined by your decks divided by 2 or your [rank + 19]/ 2. Which ever one is larger. Through out one's proper Galaxy Legion career, they would add tactical officers and helmsman to insane points. To be able to reduce your deck size then would leave it to the rank formula which would drastically decrease thousands of players damage cap on top of the helmsmen they've accumulated. That is why something like this would not be a good idea. Players would be running around with a nearly impenetrable aegis on their ship with glass cannons bigger than the ship they're attached to. Not to mention how crowded things would get in said ships.

Refer to Icarium's or Silens' post of sarcasm for examples of such.

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No to the idea on decreasing size.

Though, we really need some sort of CT Lab tech (or anything really) that requires ship bots and can be created repeatedly so that they have some sort of purpose again.

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While the idea makes sense, as in the ability to reconfigure your ship i have to agree with the above people. Now if we had the option to buy a new ship, and keep what we already have that would be different. Using this idea being able to switch between ships in your settings tab. Effectivly like having another account, but you wouldnt be able to send arties to yourself, so no real fear of multi abuse, the only thing would be planets....

Basically youd have 2 ships one that was already built and 1 that is just starting. The just starting one would effectivly be level1 ship, just you wouldnt have to reset.

Ehhh im not fond of this idea. I can see players giving some nice planets to their other ship and we would get a contagion of uber slow ranking ssb god ships. I still like the one person one ship idea because you have to choose a path giving us a wide range of ships.

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Suggested a million times by players who added lots of decks at the start and are now complaining because ships that had enough dedication to keep decks low are harder to kill each one deserves and gets the same exact response. NO!



While I agree that this idea should not ever come out. I do have to say your reasoning is wrong here. I for one started the game back when Dan used a ships hull size to calculate the damage done to a ship. So everyone back at the start of the game put everything in decks. Then he changed it on us. So we never had a chance to build our ship like that. Now on that note I don't like the idea because I could knock my decks down to what ever it is so my rank size effects damage done and not decks and still have all 120K hull and 60K+ shield. And then with my Gemini Cannon's on top of all that PVP would not longer be fun.

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Anyone else take into account that you'd have far fewer crew members if you shrunk your ship down compared to someone that raised their ship as an SSB? Basically all this idea does is remove rank points from your ship for no real reason, besides, if you shrunk your ship smaller than your modules, your modules start going defunct.

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Peticks wrote:
Suggested a million times by players who added lots of decks at the start and are now complaining because ships that had enough dedication to keep decks low are harder to kill each one deserves and gets the same exact response. NO!



While I agree that this idea should not ever come out. I do have to say your reasoning is wrong here. I for one started the game back when Dan used a ships hull size to calculate the damage done to a ship. So everyone back at the start of the game put everything in decks. Then he changed it on us. So we never had a chance to build our ship like that. Now on that note I don't like the idea because I could knock my decks down to what ever it is so my rank size effects damage done and not decks and still have all 120K hull and 60K+ shield. And then with my Gemini Cannon's on top of all that PVP would not longer be fun.


I find myself in the awkward place of both agreeing and disagreeing with you Mojo. I am basically just splitting hairs, but the option of the small ship build DID exist at the start of the game. Actually, if memory serves, the small ship design was changed once already; causing folks like Ej to take even more ridicule. It was already adjusted to make them easier to kill and a handful of folks complained about it then. Other than that bit of quibble, I agree with everything else you said.

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It was there but in the form of hull size not deck size. He later changed it to deck size and many all ready started their deck heavy build and didn't go back. I guess they could of stopped then and switched but at the time it would of been counter productive since heavy decks is what they where used to.

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It was there but in the form of hull size not deck size. He later changed it to deck size and many all ready started their deck heavy build and didn't go back. I guess they could of stopped then and switched but at the time it would of been counter productive since heavy decks is what they where used to.



Ah, I had forgotten. Thanks for the correction.

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