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+1 if Dan fixes the BT, i can only find lower ranks, maybe 1 in 100 is a higher rank


Same with me. It's not a fix needed on Dan's side though, it's something that changes with a rework of you mods.

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WOW lol you did as it was predicted you would XD

Oh well cant please everyone , meh ...

Do you disagree with my logic?

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Tree7304 wrote:
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WOW lol you did as it was predicted you would XD

Oh well cant please everyone , meh ...

Do you disagree with my logic?


As it relates to the upgrading of the guns, yes.

For one, 10% bonus for a lower rank to attack a higher rank is not that over powering. If you would really stop your ranking up because someone 250 ranks lower than you could get a 1/10 of a bonus to shoot you, then that seems pretty illogical to me.

For two, it's not like lower ranks can't level the playing field a bit more right now anyway. By your logic, you shouldn't race to rank up if they can just drop 10 emp's on you and bring you back down to their strength anyway.

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Hey man! Think about Shockwave13! He'll never get the 10% boost from hitting higher ranks! LOL

Anyways, I really like this idea and I would love that gun... just if it starts at 20 size and 200 attack and increases by 10% every time... that's gonna become a pretty powerful weapon at low ranks. Maybe make it unlockable at rank 150 or like 200 (because I just hit 200.. or am about to :D )

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For one, 10% bonus for a lower rank to attack a higher rank is not that over powering. If you would really stop your ranking up because someone 250 ranks lower than you could get a 1/10 of a bonus to shoot you, then that seems pretty illogical to me.

For two, it's not like lower ranks can't level the playing field a bit more right now anyway. By your logic, you shouldn't race to rank up if they can just drop 10 emp's on you and bring you back down to their strength anyway.

I didn't say overpowering but if you wanna talk about that then what about a rank 300 vs rank 299 that would normally have equal stats?
Sure you can debuff with artis but there are plenty of people who don't do that because they don't like to.

PvP has nothing to do with my ranking.

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failname wrote:
+1 if Dan fixes the BT, i can only find lower ranks, maybe 1 in 100 is a higher rank


Same with me. It's not a fix needed on Dan's side though, it's something that changes with a rework of you mods.

Rework my mods? i can install all scan mods and buff up to a few K under max and see the same on the BT

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For one, 10% bonus for a lower rank to attack a higher rank is not that over powering. If you would really stop your ranking up because someone 250 ranks lower than you could get a 1/10 of a bonus to shoot you, then that seems pretty illogical to me.

For two, it's not like lower ranks can't level the playing field a bit more right now anyway. By your logic, you shouldn't race to rank up if they can just drop 10 emp's on you and bring you back down to their strength anyway.

I didn't say overpowering but if you wanna talk about that then what about a rank 300 vs rank 299 that would normally have equal stats?
Sure you can debuff with artis but there are plenty of people who don't do that because they don't like to.

PvP has nothing to do with my ranking.

People need to stop relating rank and stats/pvp, Your rank only shows your opponent the amount of planets you can occupy, i autoranked 400 ranks, just so i could occupy more planets, and now... people that are active pvpers with "insane" rank and all that irrelevant stuff are mostly tin cans when i attack them

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+1 if Dan fixes the BT, i can only find lower ranks, maybe 1 in 100 is a higher rank


Same with me. It's not a fix needed on Dan's side though, it's something that changes with a rework of you mods.

Rework my mods? i can install all scan mods and buff up to a few K under max and see the same on the BT


Not sure what to tell you then, never heard anyone have that problem when doing an extended run with a moderate amount of scan. I wouldn't go so far as to say Dan needs to "fix" anything though, the BT works just fine. It's the randomness of it that seems to be affecting you.

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Probably Follyuu... just like i fail 90% of all 70%+ invades/raids and succeed 90% of all under 30%..

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Probably Follyuu... just like i fail 90% of all 70%+ invades/raids and succeed 90% of all under 30%..


Lol pretty much. I had a pull of about 450k arti today and got 2 prisoners. Just one of those things...

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Probably Follyuu... just like i fail 90% of all 70%+ invades/raids and succeed 90% of all under 30%..


Lol pretty much. I had a pull of about 450k arti today and got 2 prisoners. Just one of those things...

Same here, didnt even get one MSP in those same pulls either

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This idea seems pretty good but what does rank have to do with pvp? If you wanna kickstart pvp then instead of a 10% attack bonus for attacking higher ranks make it a 10% attack bonus to pvp. Lower ranks already have an advantage towards higher ranks in terms of hacking and raiding.

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While I don't completely agree with everything Tree said previously, I do however have to agree with his questioning of how this idea is going to "kickstart" PvP. All this would do is encourage people to farm the weakest, crappiest ships likely to be at the bottom of their range.

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Darth , there is nothing to stop players doing this right now , also I'm sure some players would still do this - but others who maybe have all the red badge modules and don't pvp much imo would start pvping to get the badges for the mission to get the gun . Which could mean many more ships pvping which means less halcs , are these not good things ?

Let me try and put this an easier way :

A new mission comes out needing red badges with a cool gun as a reward , are you and twig really trying to say that everyone will just say - no way I'm going to do more pvping ? is that really what you think people would do ?

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People will continue to PvP as normal.
A new gun would make people PvP more for a week? 2 weeks?
We gonna just make a new red badge gun every few weeks?
What about raiding and another hacking module?

PvP, you either like it or don't. Making new rewards for the same PvP system won't make PvP any better than it is now.

I still think an attack boost to higher ranks is stupid.

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Fair enough , would you still think that if you were 1000 ranks lower ? lol

But you are wrong , people would pvp like crazy for a while then yes it would go back to normal , and why should there not be more badge missions ? I think that would be awesome . Also Dan makes a new mission every 2 weeks while in a chain buddy ;)

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I am all for new uses for badges, it is the 10% attack to higher ranks that I find silly.
Lets wait and see what these legion missions require first.

And PvP hasn't really changed for me in my 1000 ranks except geminis make me use nanos.
9/10 people on BT are still crappy and are there every single day.

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Well as I said earlier the specifics are not important - they are for Dan to decide , this was just about whether the idea had any merit . I do think that some bonus vs higher ranks would be cool , perhaps it could be staggered depending on how much higher the person you hit is ? like a 1% bonus to people 1-100 ranks aboue you and so on ? I don't know - what do you think ?

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Well as I said earlier the specifics are not important - they are for Dan to decide , this was just about whether the idea had any merit . I do think that some bonus vs higher ranks would be cool , perhaps it could be staggered depending on how much higher the person you hit is ? like a 1% bonus to people 1-100 ranks aboue you and so on ? I don't know - what do you think ?

It is giving the low rank a bonus simply because the other person is playing more and ranking.

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