I'm hunting Siladon Mines. Haven been for three and a half hours or so. Found three so far. They're "uncommon". I've found more than a dozen TitanCore Proxy ships and even more Dark Iso-Runners in that time. They're also "uncommon".

This is a little bit ridiculous.

+1. I've found 4 mines in about 12k energy, but that's just my luck I guess. I also found 3 harvesters, 2 extractors, 2 Eluders, 1 Scythe, 1 Hypergrid, 1 Nexus, 1 Envoy, 1 Labpod, 1 Fab Plant, 2 Refineries, 1 Reynard, and 1 Dark Arms Carrier.

I really didn't want the Harvesters, Eluders, Refineries, Reynard, etc., would have been better if I got a mine. To me, it seems like "uncommon" doesn't have the same chance for every NPC; mission NPCs (for legion, holiday, and bi-weekly) seem to be harder to find than "normal" NPCs.

you are sooooo contradicting yourself. based on the list you provided, you found more mines than any other uncommon, so how is it harder to find than "normal" ones?
While I won't mind getting it to be easier, I have to say your logic is flawed XD.

Personally, I think I found all the mines after ~25k energy or so when I did that mission. I'd guess I went through 1k+ NPCs with that.

Many of the NPCs he listed are rares; the others are "holiday uncommons" which have the same issue as mission uncommons.

would it be better if the were labeled uber mega rare instead?
these npcs are supposed to be hard to find. your rank, what mission npcs you have open, and your attack all determine how much its going to take to find them. i think the mines took me 18-20k energy and thats with only iso runners open and killing everything in min hits.
the consensus is the mines are the hardest of the legion mission npcs to find.
some people are just gonna have to wait awhile till they are able to effectively do these missions.
how many kills did you get in 3.5 hours?

Didn't count, but I find the level of effort required to be too much for a casual facebook game - I don't think it's too much to ask to make them a little more common so I don't have to invest so much time.

Yes, many of them are. But while I don't know about the ones unlisted, all the uncommons he DID list: Blade Harvester, Mylarai Extractor, Dark Eluder are rarer than the mines. Again, I certainly feel it would be nice to make the task easier, but I have to say based on evidence given, the statement he made was incorrect.



On the other hand, legion missions have both a choice of participation and choice of task. Yes, we can ask for it to be made easier. I myself would happily accept that scenario. But frankly, there is no reason other than "I'm lazy but still want the reward", that's all there is to it.
And yes, by that I admit that I'm lazy and want the task easier. So quit pulling out random assorted reasons that have no real relation to the subject matter.

I finally found my 10th after about 27k energy total, AND I RAN OUT OF ENERGY! These need more than a 20-minute timer... I can't kill it because I have no energy and no refills of any type (sacs, tris, cubes, etc.: I have none of them)... Really BS with the short timer...

As has already been stated... It's not supposed to be easy. Especially for lower rank players.

Come on darth would it be so hard to admit that the spawn rates of NPCs of all types are a little borked?

But really this is a common issue with many npcs the common in fact aren't so common and the rare aren't so rare, in order to fix it you would have to over haul the whole RNG and trust me thats something that alot of people have been raging over for ages now.

+1. I have seen 4 troop carriers to my 3 Galakis pirates.

I'm rank 800. I shouldn't have to use a Tri-Matrix Emblem or Energy cube to have a chance to successfully complete a Legion mission task.

Technically I found 11 (I ran out of energy on one and it expired D:), in 37k energy. In that time, I also found:
- 7 Sha'din Envoys (rare)
- 2 Crimson Scythes (rare)
- 2 Sha'din AI Matrices (extremely rare)
- 1 Sha'din Hypergrid (extremely rare)
- 1 Dark Command Nexus (extremely rare)
- 2 Troop Carriers (rare)
- 3 Xavoxes, Stryll Punishers (rare)
- 2 XRP Prototype (rare)
- 7 Mylarai Extractors (uncommon)
- 1 Rogue Labpod (rare)
- 3 Lazuli Fabrication Plants (rare)
- 5 Lazuli Refinery Centers (rare)
- 2 Dark Arms Carriers (rare)
- 1 Reynard, Lazuli Titan (rare)
- 4 Blade Harvesters (uncommon)
- 4 Dark Eluder Matrices (uncommon)
- ~15 Dark Traffickers (uncommon)

They are more common than some other NPCs, such as the Blade Harvester, but I don't think I should be finding this many bosses/elites when I have a Legion Mission up....

There's a pretty big gap between the energy use people use on these missions. Sometimes it's 8k, and sometimes its 40k. It makes the mission miserable to do at any rank.

I just spent at least 16K energy to hunt down ten Crimson Sniper Drones. It's absurd.

Like KJReed said, would it be preferred if he just changed the rarity rating to more "accurately" depict the spawn rates then? Sure, he could make these mission NPCs easier to find. Might as well be handing out dysons, and make troop carriers common along with that. It's meant to be a challenge, not something that you can finish in under an hour or a day.


What is so absurd about 16k energy? That's hardly anything, at most a few ranks if you're mid-ranked. No one said that you had to hunt them or choose that task. GL is not meant to be as easy as Farmville or some other flashy Zynga game.

No one's asking you to invest anything. You chose the task yourself. No shame in picking something easier for you next time.

why the heck not ? i burned 3 energy refills to complete my task ...

Agreed.

candidgamera, if you dislike the task so much, don't pick it. Rewards have costs, and if you aren't willing to pay the price, then don't. What's the fun when there's no challenge? I.E. The talth chain. It costs 500k energy. Why isn't that absurd too? Why do people do it? It shouldn't cost any refills to complete in a day, right? They want the reward, and they pay for it.

I'm the highest level person in my Legion. If I don't do the NPC hunt mission, most of the other guys simply just can't. Which means the whole avenue of "Legion Missions" get closed off to us. I mean, maybe Dan only wrote Legion Missions for the people who are super-intense about Facebook games, but I think that design philosophy is going to see his audience diminish in the long-term.