Today, I was hit by a member of Chesterton Royal Academy and raided 57 times. This was just a normal battle tab hit. I told them about this and was told they were going to ignore it and that this was a normal PvP event. I'm curious what people think of that and ask that anyone who sees Chesterton Royal Academy players see if they feel that when they are the ones losing over 50K worth of production.

"War-like strategy game" - Don't like, don't play.

I think that's stating the obvious just a li'l too much.

True, true.

You obviously aren't much of a forum goer (seeing as this is your first post ever) or you would know that posts like you just made are created every 3-4 weeks. Generally that person is just made fun of, told to suck it up and fight back. I'll go into a little more detail here to try help you out.

Yes, our guy zeroed your raids. He is working on the raids medal. Multi-raiding/hacking is what EVERYONE that works on the raid and hack medals does. Now if you are of the opinion that to work on the raid medals only 1 raid should be taken from each ship... well go look up how many raids are needed for those medals. Now calculate how much energy you would need to disable 1 ship per raid. It would be a stupid number. An incredibly inefficient use of energy when all he wants is raids. Let's not forget that you had 57 actions to be taken. That means you were doing a rather large amount of disabling/hacking/raiding/invasions yourself. He couldn't have done that to you if you weren't already doing it to other people. I imagine you think that taking 57 actions from 1 ship is mean while taking 1 action from 57 ships is less so? I disagree, he did all of his damage to 1 ship while you did the same amount of damage to 57 ships. He hurt 1 person more while you hurt way more people less. In my books that is equal.

As I already told you when you messaged our legion. Feel free to zero him back, or don't, we don't care. He started it, so we have no problem with whatever you feel like doing to get even (although nasty comms would get us involved).

But I think your big problem is that you feel that 50k artifact points is a lot. By your rank that should be a drop in the bucket of your daily production. And if you want that 50k back you could always go raid some ships.

Lastly the "Issues and Support" part of the forums is for things like comms that don't work, graphics problems, account issues and so on. The proper place for this post is the "Pub". Although you will most assuredly get made fun of in that part of the forum for a post on this topic. Anyways, I hope this helped you understand pvp a bit more. Have a good day.

I agree with almost everything said here, but only wanted to add two thoughts. The first is that there are two types of players in the game...those who chase the leader boards for hacks and raids (and use multi-raiding and multi-hacking to get there regularly) and those who follow what they think of as "game etiquette" (1 raid-per-kill). It's usually those of the latter persuasion that feel offended when they get multi-raided "for nothing" (meaning they didn't steal your best planet or something else to provoke you). Those of the latter persuasion tend to see the use of over-raiding or over-hacking as an exploit (like planet footballing -- technically legal, but frequently whined about here) and that's probably why this discussion ended up in Issues and Support. I don't know the original poster, but he pay have piled up those 57 actions using the 1 raid-per-kill approach and may be of the latter school of thought.

Secondly (and this issue is avoided entirely in the discussion), is that "usually" the over-raider/over-hacker is hundreds of ranks above the individual being over-raided/over-hacked simply due to the way the BT works. When a rank 800 over-raids/over-hacks a rank 500 or less, the ability to respond is somewhat limited. You can expend a lot of energy and get that red back, but the odds are not in your favor when it comes to returning the multi-raiding or multi-hacking simply because the higher ranked player has usually played a lot longer and has a larger crew or more cloaking then the party that got offended. So, poking the player with a stick here and telling him but build a better ship is kind of silly. In this game, time will always be in favor of the longer term player. There is little you can do to "catch up" if both you and the other player stay active and work hard at the game.

Given all that, it's all legal in the game today so there's no technical foul. I think the question really is, "Is this an exploit that should be closed or not?"

BTW...have you ever noticed the disparity in those who lead the kills leaderboard and those who lead the raids leaderboard? To a large extent, they are not the same people. I wonder why the top 10 "killers" get to be everyone's targets, but not the top 10 raiders or hackers? Just thinking out loud here....

actually, this statement does not apply to the raids leaderboard. 4 of the top10 raiders, including 2 of the top3 are under rank 500. 15 of the top50 are under rank 500. even a glass cannon build could take me down, though it will take them quite a bit of energy.

my suspicion is that the original poster got all those actions from disabling xx other ships, so was offended that 1 person was able to take all that in raids, while he could only get a single disable in return. to that, i say tough.

disabling an enemy ship costs the enemy pilot credits to repair, which they must do in order to do most anything active in the game. hacking and raiding only takes resources. in the case of the OP, he might have thought the resources lost were excessive, but counted against the amount of credits that all his targets needed to expend to repair themselves, and it does not seem unfair to me.

1 target, 1 disabled / raid / hack is okay when you are trying to maximize badges per energy, but once you have all the badge modules, pvp loses alot of momentum. the leaderboards become a new objective, and in order to get ahead on those, you have to multi.raid / multi.hack. as to why only the killers are targetable, they do not have to deal with a 15 minute time delay in between kills, and can constantly refresh their bt ... raiders and hackers do not have that advantage.

When i was a younger player. I was not even near the top for rank or strength. when bigger guys messed with me I ZEORED there hacks. they had good planets and gave ALOT of RP. this is just simpley no one wants to fight back any more. get roughed up or any thing. We all had to deal with stronger people attacking us. the differance was back then most of us manned up. VERY few do that now.

I agree with this. Back in the day if someone messed with you in basically any way, you fought back to the best of your ability. Now people just cry about it and think everyone should hold hands and get along. This is a game, a war game. Fight back or take your lumps. Dont complain about it.

No Joke, when I read this my first thought was, "ONLY 57 times?"

Those guys, gals, and beasts over in CRA are slacking.

Even if they are higher ranked there are still ways to fight back. If you can't raid them and don't want to hack either, I find a healthy serving of cms and some debuffs tends to make them not come back for more.

Hum, well first, 4 of the top 10 killers ARE the top 10 raiders, so I consider 40% pretty decent parity.
Second, when the game first started, you COULD target the hackers and such. Dan changed it.

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