I badge hunt. I attack one on one, I don't use containment missiles because I don't want to mess up anyone's NPC hunting and I hit one person once then move on. I also leave a message on their comm explaining and so I know not to bother that person again

Last night I got farmed by the Dysonians. About 6 #$*# attacked me within a few minutes. They have also been using containment missiles on me throughout the day. Two of them used time manips to hack/raid me several times.

When I read about the new system I was afraid it would encourage farming and it looks like it has. So I am wondering if anyone does have self imposed rules and hor for badge hunting? Or do you just use it as an excuse to gang other players?

One of my coleaders found himself in much the same situation as you Kaos. Our version of the "#$*#" was the legion Pirates of the Cove. Apparently he got himself alerted and several Pirates TRIED to take him down. So the farming aspect IS out there. Myself I've had a couple run-ins with Baltar's buddies (crash and burn on their part including one 300+ over me), but hey, I did hack about a half dozen of them in one day so I can understand. Rather disappointed at the amount of retal there given Baltar's bluster about "attack us and we attack back even harder." But like you, our legion has a bit of a code of honor/conduct while badging. Only hack once or only disable and raid once. At our level, energy is at a premium so we don't spend it on comms, but in general our targets have been honorable in retaliations. Some just move on, while some do at least try to action back at us. Other than the 2 alerts I mentioned I know of no others. And we have a respectable collection for our size.

Kaos just took out my legionmate. I can see we are having issues with you guys now too.

I made it clear that the Que wasn't going to sit back and let you hit our lower members to farm badges. And I guess that what it has turn into. I have PA on me now because someone didn't like the fact I hacked him on the battle-tab. Told me to stop. Thought he was a cocky bastard so I hacked him again. Lucky for him Hong from Paladins disabled me and this guy raid me 8 times in a row. With TM of course. But for 2 hack attempts doesn't seem like a fair exchange for 8 hacks.. and numerous raids after from all the PA gang.

Just because you are 300, most of us are not afraid of your bully tactics. Its the same either way.

So all honesty I guess Kaos, its another excuse to get another PA Pain train. And I'm willing to take the brunt of the attacks and allow my legion to gain experience.

You sir, are just a silly nit. No one gets badges if they hit someone that much lower.

I hit you guys because you have repeatedly attacked Snapper. I saw his news feed and your legion attacked him multiple times. I also read that members comm and saw the messages Snapper left warning him to stop or he would be alerted.

I can also confirm that I saw comm with the warning and know that the Que alerted him and were farming him for a single badge. You were already disabled when I woke up this morning so I just raided you once. I have no plans to farm you although, with my 100+ time manips, I would have no trouble zeroing you out.

If your lower level guys lets say 150 are hitting our 120 and 130s. We going to attack you back. Even if our 250s are not getting badges. Attacking a Que member on the battle tab is an aggressive act just like most of you take when you are hit on the battletab.

I don't know who you consider 'most of' us. I can tell you I've never gone after anyone or their legion who hit me once. I figure they are trying to remove me from the tab, get a badge, etc. I respect that because it is what I do. This isn't Farmville and I don't farm people. There is really no reason to do that.

It seems weird that people would use Time Manips to get one person, when they can't get another badge for it that fast. Considering your history with them though, perhaps it's unrelated to the badges?

regardless of spamming or anything anyone else is doing. I do the same as you Kaos, hit them, get your badges, leave a comm message, and move on. My problem is that now we HAVE to use legion alerts because of the way the trap system works. Hacks work because you can get a badge and hit a trap, but I got my first red badge today because I have to get the legion to help me hit traps AND i have to fulfill the level +-40% cap. I can hit levels 480 and above to get a badge...leaves 48 players in a game of 50,000 that I can get a badge from. The system is highly unbalanced to lower level. The lower you are, the easier it is for you to get badges...sorry didnt mean to threadjack a little...just annoying.

Here's a great example of what Kaos is talking about:

I found someone on my battle tab, proceeded to disable, raid (once), hack (once), post a note that I was there for a badge and moved on. I did not bother with a contaminant missile or anything of the such, I might have used a quantum flare to make hacking easier.

Response I received:


2x Positron Cloud, 1x Quantum Flare, 1x Contaminant Missile and then attacked (hit a trap)

I responded explaining that "Hitting once is not farming". Now will I be back tomorrow because of what he did? Doubtful but maybe.

For the most part, I only attack people on my battle tab. If Dan didn't want us to attack people like him, they wouldn't be on the battle tab!

i only use artis when i cant hack them normally..like Kaos...had to use 4x artis to drop him to a good point to get the badge, but def not containment missiles.

The problem is, 5 #$*# just hit me again. One of you may start it thinking you are going it alone but the others dogpile when they realize they can get a badge they don't have to work for.

Some thing I thought about is that the badge system has the potential to limit farming, as any 1 player cannot get any more than 1 of each badge from zeroing out someone, so those who spread out their assaults will get farther in PvP than farmers will.

Yeah, that's what I've been saying this whole time, it specifically discourages attacking someone repeatedly the way they might've before.

Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. Especially at the higher levels when its the #$*# and a few scattered people in other legions. Their aren't enough targets to spread it around and only a few of them have enough honor to exhibit self control. And a legion will gang someone to get through the traps and then all hack/raid the victim.

Right now about half a dozen #$*# are sitting with halc truces on them because their last attempt to gang rape me was while I was online.

We did disable you once in all that. Besides everyone knows what happens when you attack a #$*#. We don't just sit on the sideline any more. We make sure they pay for what they do. If you don't like getting ganged up on then either don't attack us or gang them back. Many of our members have been ganged up on by many other legions. Yet all you like to complain about is how we do it to you. You are not the only one. It is part of the game and one of the only ways to do much at higher ranks. It is our game play style and we will continue to do it no matter how much you complain about it. We where doing it before the badges and we will do it now.

I say it does cause farming, not in the repeatedly attack one person way, but in the attack numerous people below you way. I've now been hit just as many times from the battle tab since the badges came out as the many months I've played before them. All by people who wouldn't appear on my own tab, so it appears people who usually wouldn't hit that low, now are under the excuse of badge hunting.

This might be new to you, but in PvP, especially at high levels where everyone has traps on 24/7, you HAVE to bring a posse to take almost anyone down. Fairness is all well and good, but wasting 30 energy to hit a halc and move on with nothing to show for it makes no sense. "Mobbing" seems to be just the natural evolution of PvP in this game. Nothing to get mad about.

don't worry kaos, i'm not going to alert you for a badge tap.

however, i do question your "honor" when you openly and repeatedly use derogatory remarks in an underhanded attempt to insult others. i am asking you to refrain from using the term "#$*#" in the forums.

Many call you #$*# because its easier that typing out Dysonians. Its just a short version of your name.

You obviously are not lesbians so I am not sure how that shortening your name could be considered as derogatory towards you. If anything the lesbians should be offended.

If one of your officers would like to way contact me and inform me that your legion prefers Dybes or Dytes I would be happy to use that instead.