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Xx Blitz xX wrote:
I'm all for any solution to this because I'd like to play the game one day knowing that the same idiot won't be hitting me, not keeping me in another tab to harass etc ......

Dan can you just do something about it ? .. Anything.


You are insanely stupid, so I have decided to make a list

[*] I like lists

[*] There is no need for a GL bullybox, especially in your situation

[*] This applies to anyone who is being harassed,not just blitz. Although the other ones are at him :D There are many strategies for dealing with people harassing you, but I just use not giving a #&$#. If someone disables you while you are on then set traps, repair, and continue playing. If they want to keep disabling you then let them until you are completely zeroed. Yep disabled and all, that will give you a 24 hour free pass to do whatever you want. But shadow, then i cant pvp without raising my action count.If you get some perseverance eventually the person will get tm locked, run out of energy, or even give up.

[*] The way you are whining on these forums is god damn annoying, and its only proving to your attackers that they are getting to you and they can keep doing what they're doing.( Frankly I don't blame them in your scenario )

[*] This could potentially be the most important point. Do not sit disabled for days at a time! Dan himself said that the longer you are disabled the higher you are on the bt list, and you sit disabled for days at a time.

[*] If there wasn't a legitimate reason behind the attacks I'm sure people your rank would defend you


Wow they just keep on coming don't they ?
You have no clue about anything that's going on so keep your opinions to yourself until you do.

It doesn't matter if I repair all the time,everyday or once a week. The idiot will just keep doing it and getting off on it.
I don't have the time for it and shouldn't have to deal with it if I don't want to. Nobody should .. spammed by artifacts or whatever else.

People get a grip and don't put people on another tab, spam arti's all day or constantly attack someone and these kinds of things wouldn't have to keep getting put in the forum.
It's just wrong period. The game is in one tab so play it in one tab.

Just because something is able to be done doesn't mean it should be done.

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Xx Blitz xX wrote:
Reed ..................

The main topic is about all harassment buddy.

Can you comprehend that ?

I've been through spamming artis at me for over a month = HARASSMENT.

Now I'm going through the same thing only the same ^%#* won't stop attacking me when I do repair.
I have to keep healing myself until he feels like stopping ................................................................. = HARASSMENT.

Can you understand and comprehend that buddy ?

Just because you can see someone on the BT very easily doesn't give them the right to HIT you constantly so you CAN'T play the damn game.
As I stated earlier, I don't have the time to play his games.
Everyone that plays this game deserves to be able to play it.

In a war ... yeah it's hammer time 24/7.
When it's not, people need to drop whatever problem that hey have and move on.

Listen and listen good ...

HARASSMENT is HARASSMENT no matter what kind of spin you want to put on it.

Now lets stay on the topic of all harassment ........ ALL of it and not just spamming artifacts all day.

Once every few days ≠ constant
if you start it and they just return it its not harrassment
if this is happening and you dont try to resolve it with them its not our problem

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Xx Blitz xX wrote:
Reed ..................

The main topic is about all harassment buddy.

Can you comprehend that ?

I've been through spamming artis at me for over a month = HARASSMENT.

Now I'm going through the same thing only the same ^%#* won't stop attacking me when I do repair.
I have to keep healing myself until he feels like stopping ................................................................. = HARASSMENT.

Can you understand and comprehend that buddy ?

Just because you can see someone on the BT very easily doesn't give them the right to HIT you constantly so you CAN'T play the damn game.
As I stated earlier, I don't have the time to play his games.
Everyone that plays this game deserves to be able to play it.

In a war ... yeah it's hammer time 24/7.
When it's not, people need to drop whatever problem that hey have and move on.

Listen and listen good ...

HARASSMENT is HARASSMENT no matter what kind of spin you want to put on it.

Now lets stay on the topic of all harassment ........ ALL of it and not just spamming artifacts all day.


Apparently you haven't realized it yet but you started a war with your supposed "harrassers". Have you ever tried apologizing or resolving your own issues instead of begging for Dan to code a feature so you can block someone? What is the difference between a war and harassment to you? It's harassment because you threw the first punch and don't want to be hit anymore? Grow some thick skin :D


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To get back to the topic..

Everyone here does have some really good points of what they think Harassment is.. but for some reason most ppl end up talking about petty harassment for few days...Once again this is not the case here..

Can we move on please ... 2-3 or even a week of harassing some one with EMP/Dbombs and CMs is nothing compared in months time, lets try to focus on that one.. This is what this topic is all about..

Lower ranks have a hard time grasping this concept that at certain high ranks the BT is very small u could easily rotate thry it with in 10-15 min and find that person over and over.. or just open a second tab..

The solution its not Halc up and be done with it.. There is also legion mission where u need to place mark of war.. then u are at the mercy of the bully since he can find u very easy on bt..

We also have this shiny new badges that require pvping..

Where is the solution in that using a Halc..

Once again u are at mercy of the bully and since their intention is to ruin ur game play for months what other options do u have left to consider..

This is why Dan needs to step in and do something about it..

This topic got nothing to do with Blitz.. he probably thought of bringing his knowledge to the table would help.. but because there is still some fresh wounds it turn out to be the way this thread is going..

This topic was meant as a general conversion and thoughts on it.. but it got derailed so bad and now its in the 4th page of pure flame war..

Lets start again.. knowing that Halcs cant help this situation.. what else there can be done..

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how about an increasing cost to using those artis?

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how about an increasing cost to using those artis?


Yup thats one way to look at but most high ranks have a huge E bar it wont matter.. plus it will affect the lower ranks of using those arties since their E bars are small..

It would not work..

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how about an increasing cost to using those artis?


Yup thats one way to look at but most high ranks have a huge E bar it wont matter.. plus it will affect the lower ranks of using those arties since their E bars are small..

It would not work..

depends on how it scales.
if it doubles for every ten in the last day would that work?
maybe triple?

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OK, here's a solution:

* You can only use a CM, disarming bombs, etc up to 3 times on any one player that has not performed any offensive actions against you in the last 24 hours.
* If the player has performed an offensive action, there is no limit.

EDIT: or in general N number of uses limit when the other player has not performed actions against you in the last T amount of time (not trying to push specific numbers, just the concept)

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OK, here's a solution:

* You can only use a CM, disarming bombs, etc up to 3 times on any one player that has not performed any offensive actions against you in the last 24 hours.
* If the player has performed an offensive action, there is no limit.

ooh
i like this one.
i think it probably should be higher than 3 but that can be talked over.

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OK, here's a solution:

* You can only use a CM, disarming bombs, etc up to 3 times on any one player that has not performed any offensive actions against you in the last 24 hours.
* If the player has performed an offensive action, there is no limit.

EDIT: or in general N number of uses limit when the other player has not performed actions against you in the last T amount of time (not trying to push specific numbers, just the concept)


+1

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OK, here's a solution:

* You can only use a CM, disarming bombs, etc up to 3 times on any one player that has not performed any offensive actions against you in the last 24 hours.
* If the player has performed an offensive action, there is no limit.

EDIT: or in general N number of uses limit when the other player has not performed actions against you in the last T amount of time (not trying to push specific numbers, just the concept)

+1 from me as well.

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OK, here's a solution:

* You can only use a CM, disarming bombs, etc up to 3 times on any one player that has not performed any offensive actions against you in the last 24 hours.
* If the player has performed an offensive action, there is no limit.

EDIT: or in general N number of uses limit when the other player has not performed actions against you in the last T amount of time (not trying to push specific numbers, just the concept)


I like this. I steal your allies planet. I zero him non stop. you cant to crap to me cause I focus only on your allie.

I zero your legion mate Every day. only him I go after. he buffs Istart attacking . I make him soam KVT's or die. you cant to any thing to me cause i just hit him.

The system we have is not bricken It's called a claiming amp. many upper rank have to set them now to base or nPC cause a few players spam the crap put of them. not going to name names but they know who they are. this whole idea is just a wussy way to play ! lets just call it what it is. - I want to zero many players and arty bomb others. bur i dont want bigger players steping in and doing the same to me-
if u cant take what you dish out then knock it off!

Oewww I forgot one. I lock your base! I have not hit you. you can spam artys. Im sorry your idea as long as this whole thread is ripe for abuse.

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OK, here's a solution:

* You can only use a CM, disarming bombs, etc up to 3 times on any one player that has not performed any offensive actions against you in the last 24 hours. how about 48 hours
* If the player has performed an offensive action, there is no limit.

EDIT: or in general N number of uses limit when the other player has not performed actions against you in the last T amount of time (not trying to push specific numbers, just the concept)


I like this. I steal your allies planet. I zero him non stop. you cant to crap to me cause I focus only on your allie. same rule would apply to my ally

I zero your legion mate Every day u cant cause there will be limit. only him I go after u keep forgetting the limit. he buffs Istart attacking . I make him soam KVT's or die.Niicee you cant to any thing to me cause i just hit him u still cant cause there will be a limit in place. :D

The system we have is not bricken It's called a claiming amp they dont work in this mentioned thread. many upper rank have to set them now to base or nPC cause a few players spam the crap put of them would be good if there was a limit to them no more spam the crap out of them. not going to name names but they know who they are. this whole idea is just a wussy way to play ! lets just call it what it is.its called no bullying - I want to zero many players and arty bomb others why such an anger.. but if this is put in place u cant do that. bur i dont want bigger players steping in and doing the same to me-
if u cant take what you dish out then knock it off! u wont be able to dish out

Oewww I forgot one. I lock your base!Dont lock my base :D I have not hit you. you can spam artys.yes i could ..up to the limit Im sorry your idea as long as this whole thread is ripe for abuse.this is only an idea to prevent abuse


Seems legit to me :D

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OK, so who is out there harassing people to the point of quitting. I've had a few hours of CM's and general "harassment" every now and then, but no one has cared enough to make it a daily and ongoing campaign to get me to quit. Who is doing this, and why can't everyone else just harass that guy until HE quits?

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OK, so who is out there harassing people to the point of quitting. I've had a few hours of CM's and general "harassment" every now and then, but no one has cared enough to make it a daily and ongoing campaign to get me to quit. Who is doing this, and why can't everyone else just harass that guy until HE quits?


Excellent question Plurvious. The most extreme case thus far presented is Negron/Blitz, and even the forum is split as to whether or not Blitz was getting his just desert or if Negron has indeed gone overboard. Hence my reservations about the whole thing. Proving intent to harassment, especially to the point of trying to make someone quit, is going to be damn near impossible.

So yeah, who do we think is engaging in this behavior?

As far as the limits on arti spam idea, it gets a -1 from me. It is still the most effective way for the little guy to fight back. You covered personal ship/ planets and then extended the idea to allies too, but stopped short of including bases. I think bases are a prime example of when you should be allowed to spam.

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Yea, I've had that happen to me. Usually lasts about a day then they give up and I go about my merry way.

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because the player found some spare time.



I think i know who you mean, and yeah it was a #*&$ move from the offender to harass this guy into leaving

I hope something gets done about it, it does amount to bullying, and there needs to be a zero tolerance policy for it

The best option would be if the offender just could not see the victim anymore

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What Grumpy is doing to my ship, disabling me on the bt everyday is farming. To me its a form of Harassment but PVP in this game is built for that.


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Halcs and Calm Amps are not the answer...
Say the person having the issue enjoys PVPing and with new PVP badge mods out it's something most folk want to do. If someone is constantly causing aggro for no other reason than to be a hairy great pap and cause you aggro you can't gain the badges to get the new mods and what good would a halc or amp do other than hinder them further in getting the mods.

000ing someone is fine as a punishment for planet theft or someone being exceptionally lippy and i disable people on my BT (when I PVP) twice in a day sometimes if the BT shows them, if i don't get a badge they get a sorry on their comm if i do i move on. Killing someone every 12 hrs is not farming as there is only a finite amount of players your BT can show, retals are to be expected but when someone makes it their mission to make you quit or to keep you down permanently that's pretty bad crack and pretty much harassment +1 to some way of stopping it.

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Its farming. Live with it.

Urban Dictionary: farming
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In video games, it's when you collect a bunch of a certain item in order to power yourself up.

Doesn't matter on the time or amount of players in the game.


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