Harassment.... should it have a place?
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Twisted Saviour
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Chakotay wrote: Its farming. Live with it. Urban Dictionary: farming http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=farming In video games, it's when you collect a bunch of a certain item in order to power yourself up. Doesn't matter on the time or amount of players in the game. I see what you mean but by that definition would that not mean that ranking, prod collection and/or sitting idle (collecting nrg as you recharge in order to make you more powerful) is farming. To me it's not farming if there is no intent i.e multihacking/raiding 1 person in one go for no reason other than to pad stats. Finding the same person on BT 12 hrs later is not a choice I've made, just a mechanism of the game. I haven't gone out my way to find that person. An example using Borderlands 2... I farmed BNK3R for 3 hrs today hoping to find a legendary weapon... didn't get it but i farmed the hairy hell out of him just like i intended to. If i'm just playing the game getting on with story and the weapon drops that's not really farming. Not meaning to sound pedantic but by the UD definition doing anything in a game can be construed as 'farming'
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Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:58 pm |
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Xx Blitz xX
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StolenPlanet wrote: PLURVIOUS wrote: OK, so who is out there harassing people to the point of quitting. I've had a few hours of CM's and general "harassment" every now and then, but no one has cared enough to make it a daily and ongoing campaign to get me to quit. Who is doing this, and why can't everyone else just harass that guy until HE quits? Excellent question Plurvious. The most extreme case thus far presented is Negron/Blitz, and even the forum is split as to whether or not Blitz was getting his just desert or if Negron has indeed gone overboard. Hence my reservations about the whole thing. Proving intent to harassment, especially to the point of trying to make someone quit, is going to be damn near impossible. So yeah, who do we think is engaging in this behavior? As far as the limits on arti spam idea, it gets a -1 from me. It is still the most effective way for the little guy to fight back. You covered personal ship/ planets and then extended the idea to allies too, but stopped short of including bases. I think bases are a prime example of when you should be allowed to spam. +1 on the base spam only. I mean we all need to be able to use artifacts to disable so maybe there should be a limit of artifacts used on that same ship from the same person in a span of hours .. Or just have that player blocked from him ever seeing you again except for planet thefts etc .. like what was brought up earlier.
I like those ideas and would solve the problems.
Ok what have I done to deserve to get targeted is what I'd like to know. Everyone in here has zeroed a lot of people out and pounded alerts. Hell I even dropped from :
# 4 in hacks to 16th #1 in raids after Krauzen quit to 7th #30 in kills to off the leader board Inside the top 10 in battles to # 32
All that started when Negron started his crap a month and a half before the Dysonian split. It got so bad that I just quit repairing for days because as soon as I did, I got hit within 10 min. The guys wasn't taking care of it like we all used to. All alerts were always down for 2 days then they fell the news feed off but this guy had to act stupid and go waaaay overboard.
Around the clock constant checking for me and catching me every single time. When someone doesn't allow you to play either by constant arti spams or constant attacks, why play the game ? You can't play the game because the other person won't let you ... Ever until they feel like it. That's downright wrong and is the definition of harassment ........
Mind you Negron kept getting alerted and I kept hitting him, hacking and raiding him so he went berserk and still is. Even gave me a warning that it will continue right here in this thread ........
Until the game is fixed, I won't be playing because I won't be able to play so I'll have to focus on helping the new guys in the game only.
I'd like to know how long any of you could endure this ?
Been 3 months now for me.
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Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:11 am |
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Annabell
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 7:33 pm Posts: 1988 Location: Aboard Blackwood Hall
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Xx Blitz xX wrote: +1 on the base spam only. I mean we all need to be able to use artifacts to disable so maybe there should be a limit of artifacts used on that same ship from the same person in a span of hours .. Or just have that player blocked from him ever seeing you again except for planet thefts etc .. like what was brought up earlier.
I like those ideas and would solve the problems.
Ok what have I done to deserve to get targeted is what I'd like to know. Everyone in here has zeroed a lot of people out and pounded alerts. Hell I even dropped from :
# 4 in hacks to 16th #1 in raids after Krauzen quit to 7th #30 in kills to off the leader board Inside the top 10 in battles to # 32
All that started when Negron started his crap a month and a half before the Dysonian split. It got so bad that I just quit repairing for days because as soon as I did, I got hit within 10 min. The guys wasn't taking care of it like we all used to. All alerts were always down for 2 days then they fell the news feed off but this guy had to act stupid and go waaaay overboard.
Around the clock constant checking for me and catching me every single time. When someone doesn't allow you to play either by constant arti spams or constant attacks, why play the game ? You can't play the game because the other person won't let you ... Ever until they feel like it. That's downright wrong and is the definition of harassment ........
Mind you Negron kept getting alerted and I kept hitting him, hacking and raiding him so he went berserk and still is. Even gave me a warning that it will continue right here in this thread ........
Until the game is fixed, I won't be playing because I won't be able to play so I'll have to focus on helping the new guys in the game only.
I'd like to know how long any of you could endure this ?
Been 3 months now for me. Apparently you don't understand what webguydan said, so let me try to reword it for you...
The reason Negron hits you so fast is 'cause you're staying down for so long. The longer you stay disabled, the quicker you appear at the top of his Battle tab when you finally do repair.
So he doesn't have to keep checking for you 'round the clock. Why not? Because you'll show up as soon as you finally do repair BY INTENTIONAL DESIGN of game mechanics, as a consequence of staying disabled for so long. 
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Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:00 am |
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Fear
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:41 am Posts: 1069
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Annabell wrote: Xx Blitz xX wrote: +1 on the base spam only. I mean we all need to be able to use artifacts to disable so maybe there should be a limit of artifacts used on that same ship from the same person in a span of hours .. Or just have that player blocked from him ever seeing you again except for planet thefts etc .. like what was brought up earlier.
I like those ideas and would solve the problems.
Ok what have I done to deserve to get targeted is what I'd like to know. Everyone in here has zeroed a lot of people out and pounded alerts. Hell I even dropped from :
# 4 in hacks to 16th #1 in raids after Krauzen quit to 7th #30 in kills to off the leader board Inside the top 10 in battles to # 32
All that started when Negron started his crap a month and a half before the Dysonian split. It got so bad that I just quit repairing for days because as soon as I did, I got hit within 10 min. The guys wasn't taking care of it like we all used to. All alerts were always down for 2 days then they fell the news feed off but this guy had to act stupid and go waaaay overboard.
Around the clock constant checking for me and catching me every single time. When someone doesn't allow you to play either by constant arti spams or constant attacks, why play the game ? You can't play the game because the other person won't let you ... Ever until they feel like it. That's downright wrong and is the definition of harassment ........
Mind you Negron kept getting alerted and I kept hitting him, hacking and raiding him so he went berserk and still is. Even gave me a warning that it will continue right here in this thread ........
Until the game is fixed, I won't be playing because I won't be able to play so I'll have to focus on helping the new guys in the game only.
I'd like to know how long any of you could endure this ?
Been 3 months now for me. Apparently you don't understand what webguydan said, so let me try to reword it for you...
The reason Negron hits you so fast is 'cause you're staying down for so long. The longer you stay disabled, the quicker you appear at the top of his Battle tab when you finally do repair.
So he doesn't have to keep checking for you 'round the clock. Why not? Because you'll show up as soon as you finally do repair BY INTENTIONAL DESIGN of game mechanics, as a consequence of staying disabled for so long.  that all assumes he's not on Negron's snooze alerts. Knowing the two of them I imagine Blitz is most of the time when he is up in that he likely retaliates. At that point, scroll, click and check can be a beautiful thing depending on who is who's alerts...
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Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:17 pm |
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Rambojr
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Chakotay wrote: What Grumpy is doing to my ship, disabling me on the bt everyday is farming. To me its a form of Harassment but PVP in this game is built for that. It is? I thought i was being nice getting a badge out of u almost every day since i know u gonna alert me over a badge hit there for Teneka to hit me back.. I dont mind.. Lets say i would like to become a prick and open a second tab just to speed up things for u and keep on doing this for couple of months how long could u possibly halc for?.. would this be harassment cause Dan is not gonna do anything about it by the looks of it... Who is there to stop me? This the main reason why this topic was created so lets concentrate on that..
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Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:13 pm |
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Chakotay
Joined: Fri May 14, 2010 7:30 pm Posts: 1529
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I stopped wasting my alerts on you.
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Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:27 pm |
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Rambojr
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Chakotay wrote: I stopped wasting my alerts on you. I always knew every time i badged u Teneka would come along for sure couple of hours later.. Funny part is he is the only one there that plays the game full out when he is online .. He is like one man army.. proops to him.. and I guess u dont alert over badges now.. Gratz bud !!! Anyways back to the topic.. srrys guys..
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Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:51 pm |
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Toastar
Joined: Thu May 26, 2011 4:45 am Posts: 1338
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Annabell wrote: Apparently you don't understand what webguydan said, so let me try to reword it for you...
The reason Negron hits you so fast is 'cause you're staying down for so long. The longer you stay disabled, the quicker you appear at the top of his Battle tab when you finally do repair.
So he doesn't have to keep checking for you 'round the clock. Why not? Because you'll show up as soon as you finally do repair BY INTENTIONAL DESIGN of game mechanics, as a consequence of staying disabled for so long.  Right. And since Negron PvP's a fair amount, it's not like it's going to be days in between when he decides to check his tab.
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Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:02 pm |
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Xx Blitz xX
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Annabell wrote: Xx Blitz xX wrote: +1 on the base spam only. I mean we all need to be able to use artifacts to disable so maybe there should be a limit of artifacts used on that same ship from the same person in a span of hours .. Or just have that player blocked from him ever seeing you again except for planet thefts etc .. like what was brought up earlier.
I like those ideas and would solve the problems.
Ok what have I done to deserve to get targeted is what I'd like to know. Everyone in here has zeroed a lot of people out and pounded alerts. Hell I even dropped from :
# 4 in hacks to 16th #1 in raids after Krauzen quit to 7th #30 in kills to off the leader board Inside the top 10 in battles to # 32
All that started when Negron started his crap a month and a half before the Dysonian split. It got so bad that I just quit repairing for days because as soon as I did, I got hit within 10 min. The guys wasn't taking care of it like we all used to. All alerts were always down for 2 days then they fell the news feed off but this guy had to act stupid and go waaaay overboard.
Around the clock constant checking for me and catching me every single time. When someone doesn't allow you to play either by constant arti spams or constant attacks, why play the game ? You can't play the game because the other person won't let you ... Ever until they feel like it. That's downright wrong and is the definition of harassment ........
Mind you Negron kept getting alerted and I kept hitting him, hacking and raiding him so he went berserk and still is. Even gave me a warning that it will continue right here in this thread ........
Until the game is fixed, I won't be playing because I won't be able to play so I'll have to focus on helping the new guys in the game only.
I'd like to know how long any of you could endure this ?
Been 3 months now for me. Apparently you don't understand what webguydan said, so let me try to reword it for you...
The reason Negron hits you so fast is 'cause you're staying down for so long. The longer you stay disabled, the quicker you appear at the top of his Battle tab when you finally do repair.
So he doesn't have to keep checking for you 'round the clock. Why not? Because you'll show up as soon as you finally do repair BY INTENTIONAL DESIGN of game mechanics, as a consequence of staying disabled for so long.  You guys aren't getting it ..............
It doesn't matter when I repair. When I'm seen I'm attacked constantly until I'm disabled.
You guys aren't understanding. The sooner that I repair means the sooner that I'm attacked. Say I repair 5:00 AM .. He logs in at 11:30 AM. He will find me and attack nonstop interrupting me if I'm playing until I get tired of repairing.
And even if I repaired at 5:00 PM right in the middle of his playing time he will see me within 10 min every single time. How do I know ? It's been happening for 3 months now. You guys can keep trying to explain away any or all of this but these are the facts.
He looks for me and or has friends tell him if I'm on and he won't stop attacking no matter how long I try to hold him off. ( Stalker ) Too bad I don't have some hot model stalkers instead.
He keeps going until he gets tired ... That's it right there. End of story ... Restricts and inhibits my game play every time I repair. NON STOP attacks so I can't keep repairing to play. Been there and done that many times and I'm tired of it.. Comprehending yet ?
I don't live in this game to keep looking at the battle tab to find a person to harass and even IF I had the time, I sure in the hell wouldn't waste my time doing it.
There's too many other things to do in this game. Personal goals etc ..
I've been going through this too long so if you guys can't understand it, I don't want to tell you.
I take that back .. I hope it doesn't happen to you unless you're in HB.
Let's go over this again since some of you aren't getting this either ........
3. Code of Conduct. While using the Game or Materials, you agree not to:
Restrict or inhibit any other player, user or member from using the Game, including, without limitation, by means of "hacking" or defacing any portion of the Game;Forget the hacking part .. Dan told me that he wasn't doing it about 3 months ago but he is RESTRICTING and INHIBITING my playing time. It's right there in black and white. Try and get around that and explain that away ........ The TOS.
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Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:05 am |
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KJReed
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:08 am Posts: 3142
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Xx Blitz xX wrote: Annabell wrote: Xx Blitz xX wrote: +1 on the base spam only. I mean we all need to be able to use artifacts to disable so maybe there should be a limit of artifacts used on that same ship from the same person in a span of hours .. Or just have that player blocked from him ever seeing you again except for planet thefts etc .. like what was brought up earlier.
I like those ideas and would solve the problems.
Ok what have I done to deserve to get targeted is what I'd like to know. Everyone in here has zeroed a lot of people out and pounded alerts. Hell I even dropped from :
# 4 in hacks to 16th #1 in raids after Krauzen quit to 7th #30 in kills to off the leader board Inside the top 10 in battles to # 32
All that started when Negron started his crap a month and a half before the Dysonian split. It got so bad that I just quit repairing for days because as soon as I did, I got hit within 10 min. The guys wasn't taking care of it like we all used to. All alerts were always down for 2 days then they fell the news feed off but this guy had to act stupid and go waaaay overboard.
Around the clock constant checking for me and catching me every single time. When someone doesn't allow you to play either by constant arti spams or constant attacks, why play the game ? You can't play the game because the other person won't let you ... Ever until they feel like it. That's downright wrong and is the definition of harassment ........
Mind you Negron kept getting alerted and I kept hitting him, hacking and raiding him so he went berserk and still is. Even gave me a warning that it will continue right here in this thread ........
Until the game is fixed, I won't be playing because I won't be able to play so I'll have to focus on helping the new guys in the game only.
I'd like to know how long any of you could endure this ?
Been 3 months now for me. Apparently you don't understand what webguydan said, so let me try to reword it for you...
The reason Negron hits you so fast is 'cause you're staying down for so long. The longer you stay disabled, the quicker you appear at the top of his Battle tab when you finally do repair.
So he doesn't have to keep checking for you 'round the clock. Why not? Because you'll show up as soon as you finally do repair BY INTENTIONAL DESIGN of game mechanics, as a consequence of staying disabled for so long.  You guys aren't getting it ..............
It doesn't matter when I repair. When I'm seen I'm attacked constantly until I'm disabled.
You guys aren't understanding. The sooner that I repair means the sooner that I'm attacked. Say I repair 5:00 AM .. He logs in at 11:30 AM. He will find me and attack nonstop interrupting me if I'm playing until I get tired of repairing.
And even if I repaired at 5:00 PM right in the middle of his playing time he will see me within 10 min every single time. How do I know ? It's been happening for 3 months now. You guys can keep trying to explain away any or all of this but these are the facts.
He looks for me and or has friends tell him if I'm on and he won't stop attacking no matter how long I try to hold him off. ( Stalker ) Too bad I don't have some hot model stalkers instead.
He keeps going until he gets tired ... That's it right there. End of story ... Restricts and inhibits my game play every time I repair. NON STOP attacks so I can't keep repairing to play. Been there and done that many times and I'm tired of it.. Comprehending yet ?
I don't live in this game to keep looking at the battle tab to find a person to harass and even IF I had the time, I sure in the hell wouldn't waste my time doing it.
There's too many other things to do in this game. Personal goals etc ..
I've been going through this too long so if you guys can't understand it, I don't want to tell you.
I take that back .. I hope it doesn't happen to you unless you're in HB.
Let's go over this again since some of you aren't getting this either ........
3. Code of Conduct. While using the Game or Materials, you agree not to:
Restrict or inhibit any other player, user or member from using the Game, including, without limitation, by means of "hacking" or defacing any portion of the Game;Forget the hacking part .. Dan told me that he wasn't doing it about 3 months ago but he is RESTRICTING and INHIBITING my playing time. It's right there in black and white. Try and get around that and explain that away ........ The TOS. OH NO!!!! He killed you 2x??? whatever shall you do? you cant possibly afford the repair cost. i mean paying 400-600M a day must completely stop you from doing anything at all in game. You know what? maybe if you stop by ill give you a toxic or two and maybe just maybe you can deal with it... Hows that sound?
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Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:11 am |
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Annabell
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 7:33 pm Posts: 1988 Location: Aboard Blackwood Hall
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Xx Blitz xX wrote: You guys aren't getting it ..............
It doesn't matter when I repair. When I'm seen I'm attacked constantly until I'm disabled.
You guys aren't understanding. The sooner that I repair means the sooner that I'm attacked. Say I repair 5:00 AM .. He logs in at 11:30 AM. He will find me and attack nonstop interrupting me if I'm playing until I get tired of repairing.
And even if I repaired at 5:00 PM right in the middle of his playing time he will see me within 10 min every single time. How do I know ? It's been happening for 3 months now. You guys can keep trying to explain away any or all of this but these are the facts.
He looks for me and or has friends tell him if I'm on and he won't stop attacking no matter how long I try to hold him off. ( Stalker ) Too bad I don't have some hot model stalkers instead.
He keeps going until he gets tired ... That's it right there. End of story ... Restricts and inhibits my game play every time I repair. NON STOP attacks so I can't keep repairing to play. Been there and done that many times and I'm tired of it.. Comprehending yet ?
I don't live in this game to keep looking at the battle tab to find a person to harass and even IF I had the time, I sure in the hell wouldn't waste my time doing it.
There's too many other things to do in this game. Personal goals etc ..
I've been going through this too long so if you guys can't understand it, I don't want to tell you.
I take that back .. I hope it doesn't happen to you unless you're in HB.
Let's go over this again since some of you aren't getting this either ........
3. Code of Conduct. While using the Game or Materials, you agree not to:
Restrict or inhibit any other player, user or member from using the Game, including, without limitation, by means of "hacking" or defacing any portion of the Game;
Forget the hacking part .. Dan told me that he wasn't doing it about 3 months ago but he is RESTRICTING and INHIBITING my playing time. It's right there in black and white.
Try and get around that and explain that away ........ The TOS. I'm aware of the situation, you've harassed him and others to the point that he's turned up the dial and returned the favor ten-fold. I'm also pretty certain that he's not an unreasonable person, and that you could resolve the situation if you chose to, but you instead choose not to address it with him in a reasonable manner.
Regardless it isn't against the TOS, that part you quoted refers to actually preventing you from physically logging in and/or otherwise literally keeping you from using the app by removing the buttons or whatever. It's not about the level of enjoyment you find within the game mechanics.
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Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:15 am |
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Xx Blitz xX
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Fear wrote: Annabell wrote: Xx Blitz xX wrote: +1 on the base spam only. I mean we all need to be able to use artifacts to disable so maybe there should be a limit of artifacts used on that same ship from the same person in a span of hours .. Or just have that player blocked from him ever seeing you again except for planet thefts etc .. like what was brought up earlier.
I like those ideas and would solve the problems.
Ok what have I done to deserve to get targeted is what I'd like to know. Everyone in here has zeroed a lot of people out and pounded alerts. Hell I even dropped from :
# 4 in hacks to 16th #1 in raids after Krauzen quit to 7th #30 in kills to off the leader board Inside the top 10 in battles to # 32
All that started when Negron started his crap a month and a half before the Dysonian split. It got so bad that I just quit repairing for days because as soon as I did, I got hit within 10 min. The guys wasn't taking care of it like we all used to. All alerts were always down for 2 days then they fell the news feed off but this guy had to act stupid and go waaaay overboard.
Around the clock constant checking for me and catching me every single time. When someone doesn't allow you to play either by constant arti spams or constant attacks, why play the game ? You can't play the game because the other person won't let you ... Ever until they feel like it. That's downright wrong and is the definition of harassment ........
Mind you Negron kept getting alerted and I kept hitting him, hacking and raiding him so he went berserk and still is. Even gave me a warning that it will continue right here in this thread ........
Until the game is fixed, I won't be playing because I won't be able to play so I'll have to focus on helping the new guys in the game only.
I'd like to know how long any of you could endure this ?
Been 3 months now for me. Apparently you don't understand what webguydan said, so let me try to reword it for you...
The reason Negron hits you so fast is 'cause you're staying down for so long. The longer you stay disabled, the quicker you appear at the top of his Battle tab when you finally do repair.
So he doesn't have to keep checking for you 'round the clock. Why not? Because you'll show up as soon as you finally do repair BY INTENTIONAL DESIGN of game mechanics, as a consequence of staying disabled for so long.  that all assumes he's not on Negron's snooze alerts. Knowing the two of them I imagine Blitz is most of the time when he is up in that he likely retaliates. At that point, scroll, click and check can be a beautiful thing depending on who is who's alerts... Nope I haven't touched him in about a month and a half. I'm trying to avoid the stalker so I can play the damn game but even that doesn't work.
I think he derives his ego and masculinity in here. I can't imagine any other reason why he does what he does.
When I was able to play, I hit alerts mostly and didn't hit the bt much. They deserved it by taking planets or harassing players etc ...
But they didn't deserve to keep being hit past that 2 days. We left them alone after that for the most part as a legion. We didn't encourage anyone to keep hitting someone unless they were on a KOS list for whatever reason it was at the time but even that got taken off in a week or two most of the time.
They got hit enough in that period of time in my opinion.
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Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:22 am |
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Xx Blitz xX
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Annabell wrote: Xx Blitz xX wrote: You guys aren't getting it ..............
It doesn't matter when I repair. When I'm seen I'm attacked constantly until I'm disabled.
You guys aren't understanding. The sooner that I repair means the sooner that I'm attacked. Say I repair 5:00 AM .. He logs in at 11:30 AM. He will find me and attack nonstop interrupting me if I'm playing until I get tired of repairing.
And even if I repaired at 5:00 PM right in the middle of his playing time he will see me within 10 min every single time. How do I know ? It's been happening for 3 months now. You guys can keep trying to explain away any or all of this but these are the facts.
He looks for me and or has friends tell him if I'm on and he won't stop attacking no matter how long I try to hold him off. ( Stalker ) Too bad I don't have some hot model stalkers instead.
He keeps going until he gets tired ... That's it right there. End of story ... Restricts and inhibits my game play every time I repair. NON STOP attacks so I can't keep repairing to play. Been there and done that many times and I'm tired of it.. Comprehending yet ?
I don't live in this game to keep looking at the battle tab to find a person to harass and even IF I had the time, I sure in the hell wouldn't waste my time doing it.
There's too many other things to do in this game. Personal goals etc ..
I've been going through this too long so if you guys can't understand it, I don't want to tell you.
I take that back .. I hope it doesn't happen to you unless you're in HB.
Let's go over this again since some of you aren't getting this either ........
3. Code of Conduct. While using the Game or Materials, you agree not to:
Restrict or inhibit any other player, user or member from using the Game, including, without limitation, by means of "hacking" or defacing any portion of the Game;
Forget the hacking part .. Dan told me that he wasn't doing it about 3 months ago but he is RESTRICTING and INHIBITING my playing time. It's right there in black and white.
Try and get around that and explain that away ........ The TOS. I'm aware of the situation, you've harassed him and others to the point that he's turned up the dial and returned the favor ten-fold. I'm also pretty certain that he's not an unreasonable person, and that you could resolve the situation if you chose to, but you instead choose not to address it with him in a reasonable manner.
Regardless it isn't against the TOS, that part you quoted refers to actually preventing you from physically logging in and/or otherwise literally keeping you from using the app by removing the buttons or whatever. It's not about the level of enjoyment you find within the game mechanics. I don't want to ever talk to anyone like that or get to know them in any way shape or form.
Where did you get your info on that part of the TOS ?
Let me get this straight. It's ok if someone looks for you all day to see if you repair and if they do catch you, they will keep at you until you're dead. They'll put you in another tab and make sure that you can't play and keep checking you for resources so they can zero you or keep attacking you so you can't repair. They're in control.. Not you. That's the problem.
Go back and read that and imagine that you're that person being harassed. It's all fine and dandy when it's not you and you're on the outside looking in but when it happens to you, it's a whole other ballgame.BTW I have NEVER harassed anyone to that point. I just said that I hit the alerts mostly and they did get zeroed. Don't start talking about #$^# that you have no idea about. What those people did, they deserved it ..... In wars they got it too. Everyone did on both sides.
It supposed to stop when it's over but this idiot won't let it go ..... stalker with some serious issues.
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Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:30 am |
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Annabell
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 7:33 pm Posts: 1988 Location: Aboard Blackwood Hall
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Xx Blitz xX wrote: Nope I haven't touched him in about a month and a half. I'm trying to avoid the stalker so I can play the damn game but even that doesn't work.
I think he derives his ego and masculinity in here. I can't imagine any other reason why he does what he does.
When I was able to play, I hit alerts mostly and didn't hit the bt much. They deserved it by taking planets or harassing players etc ...
But they didn't deserve to keep being hit past that 2 days. We left them alone after that for the most part as a legion. We didn't encourage anyone to keep hitting someone unless they were on a KOS list for whatever reason it was at the time but even that got taken off in a week or two most of the time.
They got hit enough in that period of time in my opinion.
I'm not saying this is all your fault, but nobody is buying the "everyone alerted to Dysonia deserved it" storyline.
I personally was alerted for returning a triple badge with a single Blue on more than one occasion, as well as alerted for defending my own planets.
Y'all had a well-earned reputation of following Krauzen's orders to alert any and all contact, for 48-hours of untoward farming, and Negron can correct me if I'm wrong, but that is likely the sort of harassment that people took exception to and may be what kicked him into overdrive.Xx Blitz xX wrote: I don't want to ever talk to anyone like that or get to know them in any way shape or form.
Where did you get your info on that part of the TOS ?
Let me get this straight. It's ok if someone looks for you all day to see if you repair and if they do catch you, they will keep at you until you're dead. They'll put you in another tab and make sure that you can't play and keep checking you for resources so they can zero you or keep attacking you so can't repair. They're in control.. Not you. That's the problem.
Go back and read that and imagine that you're that person being harassed. It's all fine and dandy when it's not you and you're on the outside looking in but when it happens to you, it's a whole other ballgame. I know you don't want to talk to someone like that, but in life we often have to do things we don't want to do, in order to resolve problems that persist.
My understanding of that part of the TOS is simply based upon my own experience from having read legalese in various settings, but I'm pretty sure it's what he meant.
Anyway, it's not okay that he's making your gaming experience miserable per se, and I commiserate having had others do similar things to me for months on end as well, but seriously, help yourself by swallowing your pride and having an honest talk with him so you both can bury the hatchet.
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Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:40 am |
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Xx Blitz xX
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 3:55 pm Posts: 629
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Reed quit being a smart ass ....
Who do you think you are to talk to me like that ?
What's your game name so I can get a guy to look for you and pull the same ^$%* and see how you like it.
Nvm you won't do it .. you're too scared and deep down you know that you couldn't handle it either. Hell you couldn't handle it for a week. I bet you'd be crying to your mommy boy.
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Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:42 am |
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Xx Blitz xX
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 3:55 pm Posts: 629
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Annabell,
You know if I did talk to him and it did get it settled, what about all those people out there that this happens to in the game ?
This shouldn't be allowed to be going on. Too many people will quit after buying GP's especially.
This harassment isn't good for business at all and there is no place for it anywhere.
There should be a time limit on how long a person can attack someone with artifacts and attacks because there will always be someone that just HAS to go overboard. It's not fair to the person getting harassed.
About the PVP Policy that we had. Yeah there was no rules in it but we each did what we wanted.
Most didn't do much I know that much so it was maybe 10 of us defending the legion.
I personally didn't farm people that didn't deserve it this past year. I got to know too many people unfortunately. My stats would have been higher if I didn't. That's why I quit hitting and zeroing guys that were alerted for badging.
If someone told me what was going on, I'd tell the guys to back off. Then again that was in this past year and how I changed. I can't speak for anyone else.
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Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:54 am |
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KJReed
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:08 am Posts: 3142
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Xx Blitz xX wrote: Reed quit being a smart ass ....
Who do you think you are to talk to me like that ?
What's your game name so I can get a guy to look for you and pull the same ^$%* and see how you like it.
Nvm you won't do it .. you're too scared and deep down you know that you couldn't handle it either. Hell you couldn't handle it for a week. I bet you'd be crying to your mommy boy. Check the sig smarty pants. good luck finding someone. 
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Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:32 am |
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Wolfy Minion
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:16 am Posts: 2737
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I am a bit amazed this is still going on, but I will give my 2 cents. First no the shouldn't be a place for harassment. But what is considered harassment? Zeroing someone? Hitting them daily for badges? In my opinion, harassment is the continual offensive actions against someone for extended period of time (more than a week min.) even after they have stopped hitting you back. I also think someone spamming you for hours on end to make sure you can't play is also harassment. I don't mean a CM and a few d bombs to guard exotica, but hours of it just to so you can't play. Basically what I got from CRA and what I am doing to CRA members back. Second I have experienced Negron's actions. He literally goes non-stop for hours, every 5-15 minutes continuously no breaks, no NPCs or bases (no battles) except hitting you. It is crazy... CM+emps and he is so bloody strong and fast it is hard to even defend yourself. Lag or look away for a few seconds and you're dead. Granted I deserved it, I was zeroing his hacks for the elite medal for a few days when the UST provided a boost and I could. He was relentless, no cheating, but completely shut down the game in every other aspect. I had a similar express with Zakawas (then QCC and MLP) recently and returned the favor to their legionmates (see above). Third Blitz...when you say you quit...quit. Do as Sumofallevils did and just reset and walk away. Clearly the game is not fun for you due to Negron's actions. No point in playing a game if it is not providing an escape from stress and isn't enjoyable to play. Just move on already. ToS or not Dan is not on your side, he rather you leave than prevent high ranks from just continuously hitting he other nonstop until they can't do anything but defend their ships. Fourth saying calming amps/halcyons are the way to prevent this is just a cop out. PVP is a big part of this game and with more badge items coming out you can honestly expect someone to completely stop doing it because someone decides to make the game unplayable because you stole a planet or disabled someone or just helped someone do the latter. Fifth the fact that people can still spam and be spammed with 0 disables is beyond me. Once you are out of actions you should be recessed from pvp. A calming amp effect or something, you break it by doing an offensive action and open yourself up to more abuse. This seems to happen to me more than others, but I honestly hope it becomes a strategy people decide to use so it gets fixed when more people complain about it. Sixth StolenPlanet wrote: Unless they are stupid enough to self confess their only goal is to run x,y,z from the game, It has been done, a screen shot of the comms sent to Dan and the player who stated it is not banned. This is a ridiculous statement of inaction on Dan's part. Seventh Xx Blitz xX wrote: 3. Code of Conduct. While using the Game or Materials, you agree not to:
Restrict or inhibit any other player, user or member from using the Game,[/color] including, without limitation, by means of "hacking" or defacing any portion of the Game;
Forget the hacking part .. Dan told me that he wasn't doing it about 3 months ago but he is RESTRICTING and INHIBITING my playing time. It's right there in black and white.
Try and get around that and explain that away ........ The TOS. Loose way to interpret the ToS and not your call, but sadly I do agree with the sentiment. In no way should someone be able to prevent someone from playing the game by spamming them for hours on end. yes I am doing it currently. Is it against the ToS? not according to Dan. Should it be? ya if you don't want people with grudges ruining games for others. IMO a limit of 1000 debuffs on a single ship from one other ship should be in place. At no point will you ever need 1000 emps to disable someone. Eighth This is not a war game...no where does it say it is. This is a strategy game. I am tired of people saying it is a war game. A war game you point and shoot and build armies and then send them to their deaths. This you build, you think of way to improve, you can play this game without once participating in pvp, granted you limit yourself from a lot of the game, but hey that is up to you. In summary Harassment shouldn't have a place, but it does. As people's art production grows, they can do it endlessly completely shutting you down, or at least closing off major parts of the game without any consequences except that someone else can do the same to do them. If you aren't enjoying the game, because someone is going out of their way to ruin the game...you should just quit, because Dan isn't going to help.
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Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:31 am |
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Xx Blitz xX
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 3:55 pm Posts: 629
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Wolfy,
Right now you're defending yourself from another persons harassment like fighting fire with fire. You're not really harassing but retaliating. It's never been fun for me and I never did it back .. I've actually went out of my way from doing it even during wars. I just waited and took them out when they were afk and zeroed them. There isn't any fun in spamming people for the hell of it for most. It's a waste of time when there are too many fun and productive things to do.
To answer your question. I originally was going to quit then some new guys came in so I helped them out. So I'm basically semi-retired but you're right. It's not fun.
I'll log in and help the guys with artifacts etc but that's about it. I rank up every 3 days roughly because of the obvious reasons. A person can play when another person allows them to play from is what I get from all this .. A person that has all the time in the world will win every time vs the guy that doesn't because he's always checking and looking for that person. It's actually pathetic but I guess that's the way it's going to be for hundreds and thousands of potential players too in the future.
It will be fun until they run into an idiot like that but when they do and have spent hundreds to thousands in the game to HAVE to quit because of another persons non stop actions it's just flat out wrong. Dan makes money from those people for a while but the people that were forced to quit will tell others to stay away from that game .. " You'll just waste your money ".
I'm personally struggling to tell the guys in my legion whether they should buy anymore GP's. They're ranks 1 to over 100. If they have to deal with this kind of abusive behavior from someone in the future I feel I have the duty to tell them what they have to look forward to and that they probably should't buy GP's. I have to tell them : That honor isn't in every person ... That they hold grudges and will harass you til you quit and so on That's the unfortunate reality right now.
Out here in the real world there are rules for harassment and there is no place for it and the internet is no different. People are just in another place but the behaviors will still go on if they have the ability to. The negative behaviors need to have limitations ... A week max from one player to another for whatever reason. Every player deserves to play the game and I don't care who they are.
If nothing is done now or in the near future there will be more harassers against harassers when that's not what the game is all about. It's supposed to be about having fun with your legion mates .. hitting alerts, npc's, legion missions, alerting planets, meeting personal positive goals etc ... Not running people out of the game.
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Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:07 am |
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Annabell
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 7:33 pm Posts: 1988 Location: Aboard Blackwood Hall
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Xx Blitz xX wrote: Wolfy,
Right now you're defending yourself from another persons harassment like fighting fire with fire. You're not really harassing but retaliating. It's never been fun for me and I never did it back .. I've actually went out of my way from doing it even during wars. I just waited and took them out when they were afk and zeroed them. There isn't any fun in spamming people for the hell of it for most. It's a waste of time when there are too many fun and productive things to do. Nah, he's not defending, he personally starts every single round of it as the harasser-in-chief.
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