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How much MpH for H-Thetas...
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Frozo
Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:19 am Posts: 51
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Right now my upkeep is around 900M (With H-Nulls) and atm I'm getting 3295 MpH I wanna know before I install them and find out I cant keep em' because they're expensive 
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Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:45 am |
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Tree7304
Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:05 am Posts: 2794
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Just install one today and wait a few days to see how you handle the increased upkeep. Keep installing as you feel comfortable to do so.
Upkeep is just one expense so there's no way for us to know if you can afford thetas. Repair costs, planet structures, invasions, base upkeep all add up so you could need quite a lot more income to pay all this.
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Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:32 am |
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Frozo
Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:19 am Posts: 51
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Tree7304 wrote: Just install one today and wait a few days to see how you handle the increased upkeep. Keep installing as you feel comfortable to do so.
Upkeep is just one expense so there's no way for us to know if you can afford thetas. Repair costs, planet structures, invasions, base upkeep all add up so you could need quite a lot more income to pay all this. Hmm, good idea! I'll record how I handle my upkeep for the next month, then use some Thetas and compare if all goes well and I have 300-500M to spend I'll upgrade
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Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:43 am |
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ICBLF
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:52 pm Posts: 1663 Location: where the dead ships dwell
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Don't know if you'll find it interesting or useful, but I think it's worth looking at how much upkeep you pay per attack for each cannon, and how many Rescuded Prisoners to get the equivalent attack from AP. So, here's a data dump  Code: Version Type Attack Upkeep Upk/ATK Prisoner Equiv; PE for 8 Autocannon 1 15 13 1 2 Heavy Autocannon 2 30 13 1 3 Light Mass Driver 3 50 14 1 4 Mass Driver 5 70 12 1 7 Heavy Mass Driver 7 98 12 2 10 Light Laser Cannon 12 192 13 2 16 Laser Cannon 15 269 15 3 20 Heavy Laser Cannon 18 375 18 3 24 Light Ion Cannon 25 740 25 5 34 Ion Cannon 29 1000 29 5 39 Heavy Ion Cannon 33 1400 36 6 44 Light Plasma Cannon 42 2800 56 7 56 Plasma Cannon 47 4000 72 8 63 Heavy Plasma Cannon 52 5600 91 9 70 Light Phase Cannon 63 10900 145 11 84 Phase Cannon 69 15200 185 12 92 Heavy Phase Cannon 75 21400 240 13 100 Light Graviton Shearer 88 41900 400 15 118 Graviton Shearer 95 58600 519 16 127 Heavy Graviton Shearer 102 82000 676 17 136 Light Disruptor Cannon 117 160000 1,150 20 156 Disruptor Cannon 125 225000 1,513 21 167 Heavy Disruptor Cannon 133 315000 1,991 23 178 Light Quantum Devastator 150 617500 3,460 25 200 Quantum Devastator 159 860000 4,547 27 212 Heavy Quantum Devastator 168 1200000 6,004 28 224 Light Singularity Launcher 187 2370000 10,653 32 250 Singularity Launcher 197 3320000 14,166 33 263 Heavy Singularity Launcher 207 4650000 18,883 35 276 Light Antiproton Cannon 228 9150000 33,734 38 304 Antiproton Cannon 239 12750000 44,843 40 319 Heavy Antiproton Cannon 250 17900000 60,186 42 334 Light Null Ray 274 35000000 107,374 46 366 Null Ray 287 49000000 143,514 48 383 Heavy Null Ray 300 67500000 189,131 50 400 Light Thetacron Cannon 328 132500000 339,565 55 438 Thetacron Cannon 343 187500000 459,503 58 458 Heavy Thetacron Cannon 358 260000000 610,480 60 478 Light Quasi-Chaotic Blaster 391 510000000 1,096,413 66 522 Quasi-Chaotic Blaster 409 725000000 1,490,032 69 546 Heavy Quasi-Chaotic Blaster 427 1025000000 2,017,794 72 570 
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Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:57 am |
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Kara Thrace
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:48 pm Posts: 539 Location: The underside of your ship
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^^ that's pretty cool!
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Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:46 am |
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Devastation
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:17 pm Posts: 3632 Location: Gone.
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That chart pretty much tells me that Heavy Nulls are the best.
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Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:42 am |
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Frozo
Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:19 am Posts: 51
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ICBLF wrote: Don't know if you'll find it interesting or useful, but I think it's worth looking at how much upkeep you pay per attack for each cannon, and how many Rescuded Prisoners to get the equivalent attack from AP. So, here's a data dump  Code: Version Type Attack Upkeep Upk/ATK Prisoner Equiv; PE for 8 Autocannon 1 15 13 1 2 Heavy Autocannon 2 30 13 1 3 Light Mass Driver 3 50 14 1 4 Mass Driver 5 70 12 1 7 Heavy Mass Driver 7 98 12 2 10 Light Laser Cannon 12 192 13 2 16 Laser Cannon 15 269 15 3 20 Heavy Laser Cannon 18 375 18 3 24 Light Ion Cannon 25 740 25 5 34 Ion Cannon 29 1000 29 5 39 Heavy Ion Cannon 33 1400 36 6 44 Light Plasma Cannon 42 2800 56 7 56 Plasma Cannon 47 4000 72 8 63 Heavy Plasma Cannon 52 5600 91 9 70 Light Phase Cannon 63 10900 145 11 84 Phase Cannon 69 15200 185 12 92 Heavy Phase Cannon 75 21400 240 13 100 Light Graviton Shearer 88 41900 400 15 118 Graviton Shearer 95 58600 519 16 127 Heavy Graviton Shearer 102 82000 676 17 136 Light Disruptor Cannon 117 160000 1,150 20 156 Disruptor Cannon 125 225000 1,513 21 167 Heavy Disruptor Cannon 133 315000 1,991 23 178 Light Quantum Devastator 150 617500 3,460 25 200 Quantum Devastator 159 860000 4,547 27 212 Heavy Quantum Devastator 168 1200000 6,004 28 224 Light Singularity Launcher 187 2370000 10,653 32 250 Singularity Launcher 197 3320000 14,166 33 263 Heavy Singularity Launcher 207 4650000 18,883 35 276 Light Antiproton Cannon 228 9150000 33,734 38 304 Antiproton Cannon 239 12750000 44,843 40 319 Heavy Antiproton Cannon 250 17900000 60,186 42 334 Light Null Ray 274 35000000 107,374 46 366 Null Ray 287 49000000 143,514 48 383 Heavy Null Ray 300 67500000 189,131 50 400 Light Thetacron Cannon 328 132500000 339,565 55 438 Thetacron Cannon 343 187500000 459,503 58 458 Heavy Thetacron Cannon 358 260000000 610,480 60 478 Light Quasi-Chaotic Blaster 391 510000000 1,096,413 66 522 Quasi-Chaotic Blaster 409 725000000 1,490,032 69 546 Heavy Quasi-Chaotic Blaster 427 1025000000 2,017,794 72 570  Actually pretty helpful I don't think I'll upgrade to Heavy thetas just yet 
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Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:30 pm |
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playret0195x
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:48 pm Posts: 2251
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Frozo wrote: Right now my upkeep is around 900M (With H-Nulls) and atm I'm getting 3295 MpH I wanna know before I install them and find out I cant keep em' because they're expensive  Collect your MP when one hour of shipment comes in. Cash in the minerals and multiply that number by 24 and you get a rough estimate of how much credits you make a day.
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Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:21 pm |
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DarkMar
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:27 pm Posts: 1220
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XxDarthDexterxX wrote: That chart pretty much tells me that Heavy Nulls are the best. depends on how you look at it Heavy Null Ray to Heavy Thetacron Cannon upgrade = attack +58 for + 192.5 mil upkeep pr cannon or 8 * 58 = attack 464 for 1.5 bil extra upkeep for the full set payable, but still more then it cost to add NPC/mission weapons like Zebeeren's Cannon, Korteth Twin-Blaster, T.O. Cyclobeam Charger, T-Plasma Gemini Cannon etc but main advantage is, you dont increase your size mutch only +4 size for that 58 attack) Heavy Thetacron Cannon to Heavy Quasi-Chaotic Blaster upgrade = attack + 69 for + 765 mil upkeep pr cannon or 8 * 69 = attcak +552 for 6.1 bil extra upkeep for a full set attack +552 basickly "only" = 92 Prisoners that cost nothing in upkeep as a general rule, after you start to get Aidonium 1K Minerals units / hour roughtly = 1 bil credits pr day (as long as you have enougth storidge to store your production) and you can easily get 500 units pr hour from a x16 Very Large Toxic Planet (Mining 16x Mega Rich= 518 units/hr with my basic setup) so 1 extra x16 Very Large Toxic Planet more or less payes for 2 Heavy Thetacron Cannon If you have the income for it, I would say go for the Thetacron Cannons that one is payable if you make a few x16 toxic mining planets, but dont get Heavy Quasi-Chaotic Blaster unless you dont know what to do with all your your credits
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