both sides of this argument are based on speculation and inference.

There is legitimate reason to question whether this structure (and the Bioship Landing Platform) are working as intended or not.

That's enough people.

There is legitimate reason to question whether this structure (and the Bioship Landing Platform) are working as intended or not. Short of a reply from Webguydan, both sides of this argument are based on speculation and inference.

Yes, two sides of the argument~ Which side resorted to adolescent name calling and rage quitting first? Oh that's right, Him.

You don't understand.
Arbiter is smarter than you and it's proven since you disagree with his infallible argument.

There is legitimate reason to question whether this structure (and the Bioship Landing Platform) are working as intended or not.

Okay, so does the A.I. Emotion Core work like that too? The Adaptive Spire? The Adumbrate Station? The Affection Disseminator? The Akulan Gas Ingestor? The Alarri Comm Tower? The Alarri Compound Turret? The Alarri Signaling Drone? The Antimatter Drill? The Archaic Stasis Cells? The Assimilation Locus? The Astrobiology Ward?

The Barrier Nexus? The Bioship Gene Lab? The Bioship Landing Platform?

The Capture Crimson Base? The Captured T.O. Harvester? The Chron Shifter? The Cloning Center? The Convoy Heat Seeker? The Crimson Phase Launcher? The Crimson Rift Aperture?

The Dark Anti-Beacon? The Dark Pylon Shifter? The DM79 Datacenter? The Domain Walker? The Drannik Databank?

The Ergosphere Filter?

The Galactic Concord Station? The Galakis Transport? The Guarded Memorial?

The Hall of Extreme Torment? The Heist Dispatch Center? The Human Training Barracks? The Hypergate? The HyperSensor Satellite?

The Interrogation Center? The Interrogation Stronghold? The Intraphasic Hoveroid?

The Klorvis Troop Gateway?

The Lazuli Darkmine Cluster? The Lazuli Pylon? The Lepus Hatchery? The Litheor Core-Tunnel?

The M.O.T.H.E.R.? The Meta-Tuned Jammer? The Modified Grid-Pyllon? The Mylarai Stripcore Mine?

The Omnibase? The Orbital Stabilizer?

The Perimeter Station? The Permafrost Sub-Network? The Phase Cutter? The Polaron Emitter? The Prejor Beacon Jammer? The Processing Core?

The Quantum Hydro-Meliorator?

The Refining Lab? The Relay Tower? Rikthar's War Forge? The Sarkonis Headquarters? The Scruuge Calibration Chamber? The Scruuge Hovertank? The Sha'din Hyperport Network? The Sha'jha Uplink? The Silthion T-Plasma Vesicle? The Space Elevator? The Spy Uplink? The Statue of the Magnus? The Symbiont Test Lab?

The T.O. Grid Barrier? The T.O. Manufacturing Core? The T.O. Omnispanner? The Temple of Reflection? The Trellith Comm Relay? The Tri-Phase?

The Uldri Anomaly Crystal? The Uldri Recovery Capsule? The Uldri Spacial Marker?

The Vaash Holomatrix? The Ventar Field Collapser? The Voliir Transgenic Lock? The Vorean Habitat?

The Warp Gate?

The X-Pulse Tower? The XRP Warp Inhibitor? The XTS-10 Injector Chassis?

The Zolazin Analyzer? The Zolazin Void Tower?

I mean, those are all artifacts, so they all work like artifacts, right?! I mean, you'd have to be a complete jackass to repeat Ryoko's fallacy if they didn't.

Do any of those have their stats posted on the effect page? % boosts that's it, all the other are applied directly then have the effects boost. Since the raix bunker defense is an effect it is applied AFTER the effects above it.

There is legitimate reason to question whether this structure (and the Bioship Landing Platform) are working as intended or not.

Yes, I am aware that that is how it works. There is no indication in the description that it should work like that.

"Does" does not imply "should".

Seriously, I already covered this.

both sides of this argument are based on speculation and inference.

Yeah you quoted that twice now... but you don't quote the end part do you;



What that is essentially telling "you" & everyone else is stop assuming you are the one that is correct. None of you are correct. So making grand statements that make it seem like only you can be correct here is what is peeving everyone off here.

This thread has only managed to teach me that you can be a complete A*****E while being logically and factually correct.

In any case neither side has the "Word of God" backing here.

Hey Dan, can you spare a second to help the pleebs out here?

Sent in an in-game report upon discovering the problem (assuming it is a problem?), and received a "thanks for the report," but no acknowledgment if it was "feature" or a 'bug" or if anything was ever going to be done about it. Still confused about this myself as to what the deal is. As a workaround, keep extractors handy and avoid placing Ventar Field Collapsers before Bioship Landing Pads. It's a waste of extractors, but the only option if ya want full cloak multiplication.

If it helps any, I had sent in a support ticket to Dan about this issue because I had a planet that had 117,669 defense and 11,025 population. installing one of these on the planet gives me defense +2205. So I of course demolished an obviation barrier to put one in its place and free up a space. The defense had dropped to 111,798. When I sent this to Dan he asked me for a screenshot which I sent him. He then replied with this:

"I think some of the % bonuses simply aren't going into effect on the module bonus. This has been reported. We'll look into that."

So it would seem from that like there is a resolution coming.

This and the Bioship Landing Platform, IF they are in fact not working as intended could be solved by changing the order of application of effects on a planets totals stats from: "Whatever is Placed first" to a Specific Sequence. Like the following

0. Non variable or % structures and Passive stats on planet.
1: Structures with a variable bonus. (i.e. Bioship and Raix Bunker) preference given to variable bonus structure placed first.
2: Structures that provide % boosts(i.e. Polaron, Ergosphere, Barrier Nexus, etc.) to planet stats. Preference given to % bonus structure placed first.
3: Passive Effects on the planet.

He could IMPLEMENT it so that static bonus effects from structures are applied before % bonuses if he wants, it doesn't NEED to work like this.