You must be a P.R. spokes person in real life I am betting Cen. I find it funny that you seek involvement when you already have someone who is capable of handling his own responses, but then seeing as you uber-ranked, maybe this provides you your fun as it were with the game. Or maybe its a slow news day for your company. Don't know. Don't matter really.

In any event, twist as you see fit, I admit I am powerless to stop you. Fortunately, the average player's intelligence is more than enough for reading between the lines on our respective posts. I'm tempted to quote the old saw "resistance is futile" but then so much of this discussion has seeped into that black whole that perhaps I should say "talking on this issue with you is futile."

You can pretend insult if you want, but the reality is we both know you're basically trolling the conversation. So troll away by all means if it gives you pleasure for who am I to deny you your release as it were.

Incidentally Cen, yes I am allowed to say that in my opinion you are being obstinate, obdurate and obscure. Those are adjectives which are used as descriptive... well... i'm pretty sure you went to college so you took some grammar courses. Those are not insults. You know that. If you want insults as examples in comparison - words like fool, stupid, ignorant, weak, pathetic, jackass, waste of breath/space and various buildings upon those words usually come into play. Obscure, Obdurate and Obstinate do not really refer to character (to be fair, obstinate would relate to stubbornness, but I fail to see how that's a insult) at least as regards an insult.

Would you like to claim insult because I said you are uber-ranked next? Or some type of discrimination in terms of recognizing your hi-rank status... I'm not sure why your bothering with this approach you are taking, it seems absurd to me BUT i'll admit, as I pointed out earlier, I don't have your biases or perceptions, merely my own.

Oh speaking of which, it would seem you are comfortable tossing out insults when you use words like arrogant in relation to another... But then some people feel its okay to do that and claim exception when others do something they feel is the same......

oh damn, that's almost sort of like the whole point of what I raising initially in terms of Tree's first post... this was some brilliant plot of yours to do a comparative and see if we could catch on?...you almost had me missing it, it was so deft..or would that be daft?... sigh my dictionary is not available so please select the one you believe appropriate in the spirit it was was intended.

I'm really trying to figure out why this thread hasn't been locked yet. Mods on vacation? O_o;

You do like trying to control context to present things in a way that is favorable to you, you must be some kind of lawyer in real life

There is one flaw in reasoning that you should really look into. Ad Hominem. Your posts dont actually respond to my reasoning, but attack my traits to try to invalidate my argument.
You may say that taking on this issue with me is futile, but really its because you're talking about me and not talking much about the issue.

Regarding insults, if you prefer to think of Obscure, Obdurate and Obstinate as descriptions of character, then arrogance, condescension and dismissiveness would also fall into that same category.
The fact that you would see my words as insults while simultaneously dismissing yours as them is a great example of the crux of my argument and the reason why I chose to seek involvement.

Perhaps it would suffice to say that your own perception and bias is not letting you see your own behavior in the same light as you see other's behaviors

LOL at all of sernes posts.....

Serne's are the best posts to be honest in this.

Cen, you've been listening to Darth I see. But then people who want to manipulate pull information but rarely share so its not surprising.

Actually old boy as much as you want to twist and troll, you can't take back your prior posts in terms of chicken vs the egg coming first.

So twist as much as you want but the reality is you pissed in the bath water first old boy when it comes to insults.

Much like Tree's initial post.

Twist and troll btw before you go to argue on tangents and such is a used in the context of verbiage NOT nouns. That would be "twisty troll".

At this rate Maelstrom should start a pool on the lock and when it occurs

Funny thing is for guys who tend to decry the mention of your legion you sure are keeping this one alive. Are you looking for publicity or just that bored that your'e trolling so?

So are you admitting that those were insults?
Actually lets actually break out the dictionary here...

in·sult verb /inˈsəlt/
1. speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse.


Even if you dismiss our previous interactions where you were fairly liberal with insults and attempts to be demeaning and only look at this thread, you still spoke to treat with disrespect before I did.

But I understand how you would say what you said seeing as we already talked about how you see your actions in a different light than you see others' actions

Ok you've got me conflicted Cen I admit it.

I'd love to explore how you've always been more elitist and what not but if I've gotta go digging for crap than your trolling is making me do work. I get PAID to do work. Since you don't pay I aint working. Sorry bud.

So here's the conflict.

I'm thinking a nice meme with one little kid stamping their foot, going "ARE TOO!" for you with this vs a picture of Blanka from Street Fighter... maybe making one of those nice sound effects too if it can be done... this is where my lack of tech skills just makes me damn sad.

and leaving aside it might be considered work to find either those (but i'd enjoy it probably to be fair) i'm just not sure which is the better fit for you.

At this time i'm going to take input from the peanut gallery on that.

BTW your leader is NOT "Treat". His name in game is "Tree". I don't need to know about any affectionate pet names nor do I feel it fair of you to spread such rumors as he's a Treat to kill, disable etc. So whatever your purpose was, please be respectful and refer to him correctly or in such a way at least to not cause unease...

Appreciate it.

If you feel the need to make a meme going "ARE TOO!" for you alluding to me starting things with a chicken vs the egg reference and me showing how you are wrong, go ahead.
Are we trying to deflect again by bringing attention to a funny meme? The picture you describe is a great mental image to portray someone as completely childish regardless of any validity in what was said.



Reading is Fundamental...

"Treat" was not referring to Tree, but rather the definition quoted.

hmm must be an example of Queen's english or something there because while I'll admit your explanation of your statement is valid, its still not the way I would read it without said explanation.

In terms of childish behavior, yes Cen, I view Trolling as childish. That's not the only way to be childish, but it certainly is immature at best.

Trolling is like trying to be the master at baiting, which at the end of the day is just sort of silly at best, pointless in general and embarrassing at worst. But troll away by all means, as I said before i'm powerless to stop you're twisting and trolling if that's what you want to do.

In fact, i'm probably to a certain extent, validating your twisting and trolling by bothering to respond but then thats part of what makes you troll I guess.

So what's with all the low rank fixers?

And also apparently powerless at coming up with a better argument other than calling me a troll and giving no evidence about your claims of me twisting things.

Correcting ignorance is not the same as trolling

I wanna know what happens to revenge , if all their "best" ships join The Unknown then quit ? or whatever happened to shylockk and his family ships ...

Sigh. Cen i'm not responsible for you. I'm not your parent, sibling or other relative. I'm not your teacher nor employer. At this point given our different approaches to the english language, i'm not even sure you are on the same continent.

In short if you want to just look at something that is obvious and instead deny its existence, its not my responsibility to make you see reality.

Even if its amusing to me personally, just as I can't make you stop trolling, I can't make you see reality and you can't make me force you to see reality.

The fact is if you go thru and read the posts it becomes fairly obvious in terms of you twisting and trolling.

So blather as you must, troll while you feel the urge and feel free to deny reality. Hell in this case reality is only bits and bytes as it were, not a brick wall you're about to hit, so denying it while looking silly doesn't really do you any harm. So I can't even feel morally responsible for your development as another human being since while its silly to deny reality, you are not doing harm unto to yourself or anyone else in a meaningful way in this instance.

On the flip side, if you are using drugs already it might be time to cut back. If you're not using drugs, have you thought going into writing? Say creative fiction?

Might want to take a water break. Your responses are really degrading and are more and more focused on me rather than the content of what is being said.
If we really are going to stick to the topic of trolling, lets look at who has posts that are meant to intentionally anger or frustrate someone else. I think the one who talks about another person doing drugs wins out on that one.

I too share your curiosity, together maybe we can unravel this mystery.

Well revenge are down to 21 members - I recon they will be a dead legion within 2 wekks , unless drastic action is taken . I see shylockks 2 girls are in TU , and revenge used to have 33 or 34 members . Seems shylockk had a big family ....

Was Drigun ever a member of revenge ?

if you're going to troll please don't complain about being dealt with accordingly by counter trolling as it were. You certainly are hyper sensitive to insults as much as you like to give em out. And while I don't care who's number 1 I never said I couldn't play the same way someone else does did I?

The mature reasonable response if you truly wanted to discuss a different point of view was not how you handled this and we both know that based on past experience.

Water break? Would that be some type of gender insult thing? Or is it more a Queen's english thing that i'm taking the wrong way. Considering you took the implication re drugs a certain way when there is more than one reasonable interpretation I'm not quite sure where you're going with that.

I still think creative fiction could work for you.

As to why i'm focusing on you chum its because you want to play word games. So when you play word games which ensure there can be no meaningful discussion because an apple becomes an orange which in turn becomes an apricot because it suits you to twist things, well then I might as well focus on something else shouldn't I?

If you don't like the focus, sorry, I can't say I like the games. Maybe you should try being genuine in discussing things while i'm trying to figure out whats the deal with the whole water break thing.

If you hate the game and don't hate the player, isn't it logical to just switch the game?

Hmm well Tree, allow me to say something on behalf of TU that I believe I said on your behalf and/or associates of yours more than once. Rex this is in response to your concerns as well. If you suspect someone is doing something hincky as it were or rather TOS violation you should report your concerns to Dan directly for investigation.

Drigun was a member here ages ago who got booted previously for a improper base lock. I believe he was in a Navarrone legion at one point and apparently based on some posts in reference to the current snatch, he was a member at a few others as well.

Can't say I have any more intell beyond stating last I heard Disciples of Orion booted him over the last snatch.

I said previously I saw no merit to encouraging Tree's rumour mongery w/Claude and his family. Sorry Rex but I can't any merit in encouraging yours either. Whatever grudges you two had with him, you lost the chance to do any more as he's not just reset, he quit period.

Your positive approach to Revenge's development is touching. One would think as we talk about interest in game decreasing that those who are most invested and have no plans of giving up the game as it were would be more thoughtful on how to RETAIN people in game as opposed to cheering them on the way out. And Rex while I know very well you didn't like Claude at the end of the day, he quit, he wasn't banned. Given the last round of bans was fairly recent i'm guessing that should be a indicator.

^^
This is a solid question..

Some one from TU must have some sort of answer...

wowsa wowsa. and you say I am the one having a lack of touch with reality.

Water break as in... take a break and drink some water. Maybe calm down a bit and gather thoughts.

This isnt the first time you've brought up not caring about who is number 1 and different people's playstyles. Noone is talking about that here except you.

You said "if you are using drugs already it might be time to cut back" and I took that as you talking about me doing drugs. Pretty direct correlation there so please expound on your multiple reasonable interpretations here.

I dont want to play word games. Grabbing definitions of things to clarify isnt like I am making them up and pulling it out of thin air. They come from dictionaries i.e the authorities on language. To use your correlation, you seem to really think an apricot is an orange, so I feel the need to define what an orange is to you. Somehow that pops into your head as twisting things.

Just like being #1 and playstyles. I dont think anyone here is talking about hating the game except you.

I dont know where you come up with this stuff... lol