MurderDeathKill (89) of Undertakers Incorporated, this kid has nearly no attack or defense, but he is disabling people above the
200 rank. i have nearly 2000 attack, and over 1000 defense, and i cant break through to damage him at all. What gives?
I see the hull stats, and all, but when you go to fight him, he shows up with 0 defense and attack.


Battles 12455 (Master)
Player Kills 782
Deaths from Players 113
Non-Player Kills 12
Planets Found 22
Planets Occupied 9
Planets Captured 0
Missions Completed 154
Scans Performed 26
Successful Hacks 0
Successful Raids 183

Size Class Frigate
Weapons Dominion Cannon
Energy Omicron Injector
Sensors AI Supercomputer
Hull Deep Core Neutronium Armor x2, Merged Nexus Armor
Shields Harmonic Resonator
Cloaking none
Defenses none

looks like he used to be a scout. he has a ton of crew, and those dont show up unless you scan him with a weapons probe and a defenses probe. after you scan him, youll see his stats are probably far higher than yours...

a rank 89 thats only a frigate??
he has just been pumping tactical officers and helmsmen. his ship is probs made entirely by ship bots.

used a defense probe and i get this:

The probe returns with data:
Ship has 30 defense

for a weapons probe i get this:

The probe returns with data:
Ship has 552 attack power

isn't there a huge handy cap on high levels, preventing them from getting good hits on low levels (edit) / small classes????

i can only do a max 20 damage on this lvl 6 dude alerted in our legion.... i have 950 attack

idk, he gets through my defenses just fine. he's been braggin in legion comm about how it takes him only 2 or 3 shots to disable me, no use of artifacts. I just cant see how.

when i ask, i get the comment im a coward, learn to play.

legion comm:

2 days, 2 hours ago from Ejjakai:
With respect, you dont need to be scared to get your ships blown up, raided, hacked and zeroed. Believe me when I say, were not bringing the might of UI.... No...

2 days, 2 hours ago from Ejjakai:
MDK will DECIMATE you all on his own. Observe...

well, sometimes when I attack people a higher rank than me that only have 35 attack and 25 defense, while I have 700 attack and 170 defense, they seem to somehow win, with 100 damage, WTF?????

thats just him trolling

find some low level merc's and pay them to thrash him

oh, ejjakai is a suspected multi of drake oblivion and a huge trash talker. they have a ton of tac officers and use the damage cap loophole to their advantage.

divide your total decks by 2 and thats ur damage cap. divide your added hull and shields by the damage cap and thats how many hits you can take.

anyway, its a lose lose situation ur in. if you start beating up on ejjakai drake oblivion will step in and pick up some kills cause he cant have you beating up his multi. if you keep fighting and losing then your stats will suck.

my advice is let it go and drop off their tab.

what is this damage cap loophole, and how can i prevent it?

you cant prevent it. the loophole is your damage cap is your total decks divided by two, or your level divided by 2+something. anyway, you cant prevent it, its something a player decides to do when they first start the game. players who exploit this loophole take very little damage, almost to the point of nothing, because they are usually low level with minimal decks. the only thing you can do is put as much hull, shield, and defense on your ship as possible, and force them to waste all their energy.

when the trust was disbanded this was the tactic used by havoc corp. (the trust was ejjakai's last legion)

You need defence, you need to research defence (godamnit).



Ejjakai and her gang of scout pilots are very tough. However, they are going in on a slow death. They have no energy, no space to install scanners. Trust me. In 3-4 Months time, you can flatten there ships. You just need lots of energy to kill them off. I have a max output of 1800. I had a crazy run in with them. twice. and both times they called in rank 400 guys from PA to kill me. They used to have a gigantic multiaccounter there too (All 20 multiaccounts have been banned), but thats another story

ships need to be well balanced, or they will be screwed. if you don't have cloak someone could hack you and use an inner tactical bypass, use a couple of stat reducers, buff themselves, and own you even though you had weapons two tiers above theirs. a well balanced ship is the best way to go.

lol very true. but multiaccounts dont need to be balanced, they can be extreme builds like ejjakai is. no new player would know about the damage cap loophole, so im guessing drake was trying out a new build, especially since his kills arnt exactly up to par for his rank and legion. anyway, my opinion is still outrank them, and in the mean time a ton of hull, shield, and defense. its even better to uninstall weapons and maybe even a reactor to fit all that stuff on, but just buff your health and defense so they run out of energy when they attack you, considering the max damage you can do is 20-50 or something like that, you really only need one low level gun.

this is great for humiliating someone or retaliating but unless they can destroy your ship in their natural state they are screwed. fire 1 containment missile at your opponent and you would easily take revenge.

i only ever use buffs when fighting NPC's.. and pity those who use them in PVP < lvl 150

hrmmm, thank you for the info. Your advise is being used to the best of my ability.

2 mins ago from Ejjakai:
Well then, do what you need to do. Until then, well be zeroing u for the duration. Until were all banned that is. And MDK is on, shall i inform him of ur discovery?

Sounds like he just admitted he is a multi.

It's his wife...

You can't run a scout build without a multi sending you amps etc... so.. and you beat them up they call in the mains... lame actually...

I have been reading this threat and cannot understand how the word "loophole" can be used.

This is a intentional decision made By Dan to make it more interesting and to create a multi build ship choices by players.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5720

Now we call it a Loophole?

If they wanna build and play in that manner why is that a problem?

I mean no disrespect to the high ranking and veteran members of this forum but they play to get a well small build ship others want to rank up fast and others want a balance ship.

At the end of the day you are the captain of your ship and every choice you make will have some positives and negatives irrespective what kind of build you are going for.