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 Invasion Formula has been cracked! (Here's Proof) 
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This formula is wrong. Just saying.

had 3460 attack , planet had 2037 attack. had 63% chance. just saying.

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You're positive there wasn't anything else on it?


Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:06 am
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You're positive there wasn't anything else on it?

congrats on the 2000th post :P

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planet had 2037 Attack, no Defence, feel free to crack it...

dropped orbital mass disruptor

63% chance invade.

had 30% boosted attack from artifact (Crystal, Amplifier and obelisk)

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Well, with that it's possible your formula was only wrong about the attack's contribution, and it's actually .9*planetAttack instead of .6*planetAttack.


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any invasion defense you mightve missed?

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his invasion attack was 2995 before the buffs are applied... (his regular attack was 2605)

(he has a gamma channeler if he has a combat analyzer... according to my math, he doesn't have an exotic dynamo, so he completed less than 58 missions)

then 1.05 * 1.10 * 1.15 = 1.32825 multiplier from the buffs, giving him a regular attack of 3460 as he said, and an invade attack of 3978

(boy those exo-temporal translators really make a difference)

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Explain this one, The planet only had basic resource buildings. No atk No def No cloak. I attack with 1.5k atk, and I fail with only 90% success rate.???????


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Explain this one, The planet only had basic resource buildings. No atk No def No cloak. I attack with 1.5k atk, and I fail with only 90% success rate.???????


This has been explained; the maximum chance is 90%, so if your chance would be over 90% or (possibly) if the planet has no protection, your chance is just set to 90% automatically.


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im bad at math but to clarify the invasion defense then is the attack ad defense of the planet combined

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agreed, Blakespon... looks that way from my math.... (unless invasion bonus doesn't get buffed.... just thought of that possibility... going check my spreadsheet to test that possibility....)


edit: h0ry cl4p!!!

if you do the calculations without buffing invasion bonus but with buffing regular attack....
total invasion attack = 3850... against a planet with 2037 atk and 0 def.... comes out right at 63%....

so here's the newest equation:

(remember to multiply together any buffs or debuffs)

player's invasion attack = ("unbuffed regular attack" * "buff modifier") + "invasion-only bonuses"

planet invasion defense = ( attack + defense + "invasion-only bonuses")

invasion chance = invade atk / (3 * invade def)


next up.... test to see if planetary attack +% bonuses affect the equation

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3* planet def?
wow it is, seems as though planet attack is as effective as shields..my bad

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yep, comes out weighted equally...

it'll be interesting to see if invasion defense bonuses ignore buffs like invasion attack bonuses do

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You guys keep up the good work. This stuff is very useful and interesting.

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Reverus: invade chance = player attack / (total planet att+def+invdef) / 3

I think that's it. final.

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good to know.

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finetuning the formula even further....

verified: pure invasion defense from a module gets legion bonus as well... (so 500 invasion defense becomes 1100)
verified: attack debuff affects invasion chance (the debuffed attack is what is used in the calculation)

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Interesting.

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Holder wrote:
Interesting.


This thread was necroed for that?!

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lol yah... but hey, hopefully more people bookmark it while it's up on the first page again...

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