So people are joining these legions like Disciples or Orion and going around threatening others and acting with impunity like thugs from a street gang because they know that no matter what happens they can whine to big brother in their legion and get bailed out. That I don't have a problem with. That I can handle. If someone wants to be that much of a wussy, let him and I will still stomp him, I don't give a frack about his legion.

But what is up with all this leaving messages on each other's comm boards.

1) Its a waste of energy to have to explain that you are attacking because someone else in your legion told you to
2) It is a waste of my time to read them, I don't care why you are attacking me, I am still going to retaliate
3) Idiots can post nasty/obnoxious/offensive things to your comm board but you cannot report or block them
4) You have to waste your energy to respond or explain something on a comm board.


Here is my suggestion, either
1) Make the comm boards free (no use of energy) and able to block idiots from contacting you
or
2) Set it so that only your own legion members can post to your comm board


That is all I was thinking. And if you go looking at my comm board to find out why I am griping, I delete all the offensive stuff so you won't find it.

but then they wont be able to pretend there the police and read you your "rights".

IMO I dont see it as anywhere near annoying enough to stop other people from sending you messages. Thats actually useful from time to time.

Let em waste their energy, no harm to you. And if you need to talk to them just PM Nocifer on the forums.

Also you can report people, just take a screenshot of it.

I agree with thi in part. Messages should be free of energy costs! Energy is hard enough to get in this game.
But I still think anyone should be able to message you. Message is actually more fun with enemys, talk a little trash, have a little fun with it.

You have apparently not seen the bad side of DOO.....


Energy gets easier to get as go through the game, eventually 5 energy is an "meh" amount. Seeing as its not that much once you actually start playing and 5 energy is only going to get less and less meaningful the longer you play for, the only thing Im seeing this support is spamming.


/concur, this even though it is not usally used well can be very helpful at times. Besides it would also completely counteract why it was implemented in the first place.

When does this start happening? I'm level 54 with 3 Quantum Capacitors - Mark IV and 4 Plasma Relays and 5 energy is much bigger deal now than when I first started. It will be at least a week before I'm up to researching Wave Conduits.

when you start focusing your research into energy to the point in which you stay ahead of your module par.

So, it's dependent on finding worlds with good research resources (which I haven't) NOT on progress in the game.

6 of my 14 worlds are research dominant. Only 8 of the 90 worlds on my list are unowned and research dominant, and they're ALL below average in size or resources or both. (I just recently did a major scan. Even though they aren't very good I will be colonizing some of these. I did immediately colonize the one good research world the scans turned up.)

Considering that energy is no big deal for the people lucky to find research-rich planet, but a huge problem for those not so lucky, I have to strongly vote for removing the energy cost from messages.

Sounds like your problem is less of a "im not finding good planets" and more of a "im trying to play pacifist in a game where you take what you want if your able to".

Also its recommended by every person who has enough experience in the game to know what they're talking about and to voice it in the forums to have the majority of your planets focused on research. Or atleast the majority (60-80%, we all agree its around here where exactly is up to debate) of your resource production be research.

How do you get that? You're suggesting I should attack people who will immediately take the planet right back? There is one research planet that might be worth the effort to invade at this point, and I am considering it. Feel free to post your own numbers so I can see how much worse than mine they are.



Uh-huh. So I should have settled a Very Small, research: very sparse planet (the only research dominant planet I hadn't settled before this last scan turned up 8 more) because it would produce some research?

I would love to have 50% of my production in Research. It isn't possible.

Who says they'll take the planet right back? If you can get your hand on a planet flux and prepare for your invasion you can almost guarantee that you will get a planet without loosing it. Also if you can take it and put enough defense/attack on it (with your guarding it so that your stats are included as well) and hold it for long enough people will eventually give up.

Just look at Zhorgul, he took exotica after I let it go, took my strategy and used it for a week. Once things cooled down he simply put a few resource structures with a ton of defense/attack structures and due to exotica being awesome hes making a killing.

Don't thread jack, there are plenty of other threads about planets/research/energy.

As for the "Legions" there are a lot of good guys in there that joined it for the protection and comradery. Yes, they act like Keystone coppers sometimes but their hearts are in the right place. Plus it makes me laugh when a lvl 50 attacks me because the thug ally picked a fight, got his arse kicked and went whining to his legion. And those thugs are the ones that annoy me. The guys who act like nothing more than thugs in a street gang. They pick fights, talk trash and then use the power of a legion to back them up.

I am fine with leaving the comm boards open if they were free. Right now idiots and punks go on my board and leave messages but I don't respond because it isn't worth the wasted energy to point out they are liars.

By the way, if you want to take my crappy planets you are welcome to, saves me the cost of abandoning them and it amuses me how you think its a victory.

Jeff, I have only Graviton cores mk IV and plasma relays and I think 5 energy isnt that much.

The thread-jacking comment is right on target. If anyone wants to take that further they can message me with an appropriate thread.

My point remains, however, that for some people, for any of a variety of reasons, 5 energy is a big deal. People who are new, who made mistakes, who came up with an odd planet mix, these are the people who most need to use the communication system, and the ones that are kept out because of the current cost.

Maybe the people in this category are rare enough that it doesn't matter. I doubt they're as rare as the advocates of keeping the cost seem to think. They certainly aren't nonexistent.

so you mean that you have over 200 energy(youve got quantum capacitors right?) adn 5 energy is a big deal.

5 energy is a big deal to me and i have the grav mk IVs and plasma relays also...

>_>

You're trying to argue that it isn't a big deal later in the game, i do agree.. but early in the game it IS and these people are learning to play. Not everyone will come to this forum and read all the crap posted here.. most will learn by communicating with people in the game more knowledgable than them.

Obviously catering to that fact would be a GOOD thing for GL... and if spam does happen, well the way to counteract that is to have spamming cause an automatic day ban. Posting so many messages per minute causes it.. also allowing a feature to "broadcast" messages to legion members would be cool.

I think it could be free - but with a timer (like legion alerts). You could set it for 5/10 minutes a comm or make it like the hack timer - the second hack is 5:00, the third is 30:00. You could even make the comm free for only one post per player - but pay 5 energy for every post made after that within 20/30 minutes - that way you could add a quick reply/comment to someone for free - but still pay if alot are made during a certain period of time. I do think 5 energy is important - it majorly cuts down on spam in comms - but also majorly reduces communication in-game. I think it should atleast be free or discounted (like 2 energy) if you are talking to legion members. I do think this is important - because there is no other in-game chat system.