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don't do it.... start another account... don't tell anyone don't make any friends.... and start from 1... de-active the current facebook...


Just and idea.. lol

You know he probably uses that Facebook for his real life friends too, ya know :roll:

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don't do it.... start another account... don't tell anyone don't make any friends.... and start from 1... de-active the current facebook...


Just and idea.. lol


I was gonna mention that but that might've derailed the topic, maybe have dan temporary ban your main account?

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Leveling for the sake of leveling is okay, but there might be no end in sight to the endless clicking if leveling is all you're actually going for. Getting just engineers won't make your ship stronger except for raids, but leveling will increase your production from more and better planets. The production levels you have aren't fully realized untill they are maintained for some amount of time. My advice is that you wait. Don't power level, just do a repeatable mission and wait days for your energy to refill like every one else. clear your resources every 4 or 8 hours or whatever it takes to not lose them. It will give you time away from the game to decide what you actually want to do.

I don't see leveling as the ends to the mean but as a way to increase production and even if there are no planets to settle there are still other benefits and no actual drawback. If you get more tactical officers instead of engineers it should make the leveling take exponentially longer while still being "automatic" and that might provide some disincentive to do what you seem burnt out on. Having 15x mega rich planets is a simple function of time spent clicking NPCs as long as you dont have to wait for energy to refill, so that option will still be available, it just wont be connected as much to leveling. The missions can no longer obligate you to do the endless clicking either. You have to focus on something other than leveling if what you want is for there to be an end in sight to the endless clicking.

You might need to formulate some other goal and you might need time away from the game to formulate it. That seems like a first step. I can't tell you what that is. If you want my opinion it is this: If you don't get involved in the PVP and petty politics there isn't much reason to be playing an MMO. As it is, you are playing alongside people, not with them. Do what you think is fun and it sounds like strategy is what that is. Perhaps writing a gigantic game guide that only advanced players might even understand. I really don't know, because I am not you. I think the most prudent thing to do would be to take a break from the NPCs though.

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Maybe Dan can have the high levels help on the testing of new ideas.. being a test subject to Dan's Ship...


Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:24 pm
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being a test subject to Dan's Ship...


dan: stand there please - (points giant ray-gun at his head) - this may hurt

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Maybe Dan can have the high levels help on the testing of new ideas.. being a test subject to Dan's Ship...


thats sounds painfull lol. but i think it would be cool if he could help out with in game testing. it would give him something to do.

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I know all the best games I've played were run through two te three times er more, an I kept refinin me strategies. Regardless o the final outcome, if it's what ye want te try, I say go fer it!


I have to agree with this. In your position I would have reset ages ago.

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At 8-10 ranks/day, do the math about 1/2 of my ranks is from the past couple months (out of say 8-9 months overall). As soon as I turned to npc's and drannik, things started moving (well I had run out of missions as well). I'm not ranking to rank; it's a side effect of farming npcs. Non-Player Kills: 166680. All I want is the planet drops from these. It'll take about 4 weeks to dump my planets (debating on worrying about mining with 500b credits in the bank, but other folks can use it, storage limit is too low for me, lower ranks get more EM as a % anyway which is the only unique thing to mining vs. RP income). I'm going for no mining planets this time to maximize cost/slots.

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if you wanted a build that doesn't necesarily focus on leveling but still has auto-leveling capability, it should be possible to work some tactical officers in with the engineers. It means if you don't use the surplus energy on missions (which is faster than doing missions alone) then you should be able to kill a lot more NPCs each rank not just because of them taking fewer hits but because you aren't using whatever percentage of your energy on missions each level. It sounds like you are trying to only have 15x planets and that would be the best way, it would just be nearly impossible to do all the missions. Maybe switching to tactical officers once you finish all but the star chart purger mission untill your ratio of engineers is JUST enough to auto-level. You could make that change on your current character though. And it sounds like you are abandoning planets either way. theres no drawback to auto-leveling except the huge time investment. There are a lot of different ways to do it. I think you should find the balance that has the smallest time investment in terms of clicking.

For those that don't know, if you have 110% of the energy it takes to auto-level with NPCs you can use 30% of your energy on a 3 xp/energy mission before you go back to auto-leveling with NPCs each level. You can complete all the missions really fast doing that.

Honestly the completionist attitude is what slows most people down and turns them off of the game. Its weird to think of it as applying to having only 15x mega-rich planets though. Leveling>resources>leveling can go on forever and the missions only play a small part in helping that. It might take weeks to complete some mission that will increase your attack by a few hundred when you already have a few thousand. Alternatively you could have leveled however more times in that week increased your production by some amount and that production will raise your attack by that amount in a month and it will do the same the next month and the month after that and you will forever be ahead of others by those levels and production. That and you save on decks upkeep and all the other crazy benefits of not being a perfectionist about completing missions.

I know that you already understand all that since you are a math wiz or whatever, but the same type completionist/perfectionist attitude is hurting you in a totally different way and now you want to quit and start over because it is technically impossible or at least realy really difficult. The point of the game is to have fun though. I know having goals is a lot of what makes people competitive and competition is a lot of what makes a game fun whether you are playing against people or alongside them, but I think you should have a new long term goal or objective before expecting the input from others to actually mean anything. Why play an MMO if you are competing against the game itself?

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ahoy mate, figgered id be throwin in me 2 gold pieces fer a friend o mine! I think ye should consider resettin if ye know tis wont be a regret, I know fer me playing call o booty, resettin te account o'er fer te prestige mode though seemed like a smart thing te do cause o boredom, i quickly regretted te reset as I lost all me stuff and had te start o'er and being use te havin te best, i found it hard te play with te basics. I do agree though that ye definately learn some lessons te hard way leveling up even fer me and I had people who learned te hard way telling me what mistakes not te do and i still made choices I wish fer a reset te fix. I guess what i am tryin te say is, restarting can be more work then what first thought te be perceived cause ye are looking at te game from the perspective o aven all te good stuff.

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pirate stuff

well said... crazy ol' pirate.

"when one has everything but happiness, it's time to give. you will find there are always those willing to accept"

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Kharr wrote:
pirate stuff

well said... crazy ol' pirate.

"when one has everything but happiness, it's time to give. you will find there are always those willing to accept"


har har har I thought maybe te rum was already gettin te me, when I read ye post i was like, damn I dont remember sayin pirate stuff, must be te rum! then I realized ye just said i talk like te pirate i be

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Hey Rav, Congrats on the 1400, I know the feeling when you are out of options on what to do in the game.

If you are planning to reset your account try putting this into consideration. Since you have friends that you can trust in your legion. share them your top 20 planets that you would like to get back.

and this time try to go the high artifact per hour build.

Good luck on what ever you decide.

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You could do some contests in the forums for planetary prizes. I have done a lot of contests in other forums, just for the sake of it. It's kind of fun and keeps the community going. It'd be a benefit to a community like this, where there is a certain level of angst right now.

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You could do some contests in the forums for planetary prizes. I have done a lot of contests in other forums, just for the sake of it. It's kind of fun and keeps the community going. It'd be a benefit to a community like this, where there is a certain level of angst right now.

So many ppl, still havnt found it
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First off remric- your legion seems to have an issue with his name so let me make this clear:
R-----E-----V-----E-----R-----U-----S... every time someone comes into the legion to buy one of his planets they refer to him as Raverous...

Second: I think it's a pretty good idea, though now many of you will be taking a pay cut as I wont be buying all that EM for him :P... but the concept of not actually having the energy to do anything you want to do might be a bit maddening lol.. you've pretty much had the energy to do w/e you want for the last 4 months... now you'll actually have to wait for your energy to recharge and it takes a while for your energy/relays to become decent again, not to mention getting your rp storage limit up enough to benefit from even 1 of your 500 rp/h planets..

Just be prepared to give up a chunk of the game for about 2 months if you do choose to reset... namely pvp and actually having an energy budget :)

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Congrats on meeting your goals. I have made that same point from the very beginning. Plan what you would like to do, build your ship accordingly, and "win' by your rules. Well done bro. Whatever you decide from here, well done.

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First off remric- your legion seems to have an issue with his name so let me make this clear:
R-----E-----V-----E-----R-----U-----S... every time someone comes into the legion to buy one of his planets they refer to him as Raverous...


I should be reborn as PhoenixRev. Or maybe AFluffyPhoenix ? hahaha.


"Round 2" Objectives:
- Use my melters properly this time (and for that matter all planet boosters, to max sizes. I would like a mega col planet for once)
- No mining spec planets except irradiated/max to col. Assuming I even unlock those iso runners this time ;)
- Only get largest planet in class (more from shares than scanning at first).
- Leave some key missions undone, where it helps in the long run. Not just for more xp, but also so there is more variety to the npc even when I get high again.
- Get badges while it's easy for the modules, and be done with that. Lowbies don't have a million traps (and most don't know what they're doing).
- todo (add more)

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It's sad to see this happen ... but you'll pass us leveling up the way you play anyway :mrgreen:

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my question is what would you do for a legion? would you join tortuga, or would you go hide among the real newbies so no one would know who you were?

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