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ok, so, here's some ideas on some things I thought should be brought back in some form or another.

artifacts that USED to be in the artifact draw but aren't any longer for reasons I'm sure everyone can understand
Terraformers, Quasi Spacial Expanders, Mass Surface Melters, Planet Fluxes, and IF I remember correctly, Energy Cubes, and if I remember correctly they were quite abundant too.

all of this I have read and have been told used to be in the artifact draw as well as the fact that the former richness limit on planets used to be 40X
sad to say I joined this game long after the restrictions on those items had been put in place. But here's the thing, there are those old timer players who didn't have those restrictions for a long time, now we have Terraformers and Quasis which drop from a Rare NPC, and Quasis have a horrible drop rate, very hard to get as everyone well knows. so, I was thinking of some changes that I doubt will get implemented, but it doesn't hurt to try.

QSEs, Terraformers, and Planet Fluxes - I was thinking these could again drop from the artifact draw, BUT they cost insane amounts, I was thinking over 40-50k for each one, and the drop rate intentionally be set lower than 1% drop rate, just to make it harder to get yet not entirely possible. maybe .5% and since there would be 3 artifacts that would have this same drop rate, and artifact point level, that would further decrease the possibility of getting any particular one

Mass Surface Melters - I have heard these dropped like candy back in the old days, and I can understand why these were taken out of the artifact draw, +2 to size and resource richness combined with the fact that terraformers and quasis also rained down like gun drops from the heavens = lots of colossals and mega colossals, but if there were restrictions put in place instead of removing it all together I see a way for this to work. What I was thinking is that after you complete The Pawlecite Thaw, that the Mass Surface Melter become available in the artifact draw for the same price as a Mass Storage Pod, BUT it only increases the size of a planet by ONE and increases the resources by 2, with a description explaining why it only increases by one instead of 2. and possibly putting the Gamma Crytalizer into the draw for 15k-20k artifact points as well.


as for energy cubes, they are fine as they are.

GP's from the daily, now this is even rarer than the quasi spacial expanders, and for a good reason. it could lose dan a bit of money. my proposed idea is to increase the chances of getting it by just a tiny bit, and maybe awarding a max of 3 points, more likely 2, BUT it would only be awarded to the people who DON'T buy GP this way they can eventually manage to get something with GP or abandon some crappy planets that they colonized as a beginner.

Increase the richness cap - as I have already explained the old richness cap used to be 40x, what I am suggesting is increase the cap, but just slightly, I am not saying increase it to 30x or even 25x. I think 18x would be a good cap to have it at, as it allows for a slightly better production and having a decent amount of defense on the planet.


these are all the ideas I have for now, I'm sure they will get ripped apart by cynicism but oh well. if you have any comment good or bad please post it so we can see if this can be implemented back into the game.

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Really? I didn't know qse's, terraformers, fluxes, and melters used to be artifact draws. To bad they weren't when I started playing. I think your ideas are great. It seems like I have to search through almost the entire galaxy to find a troop carrier. And of the ones I've found, only ONE gave me an expander, all the others terraformers. I think these should go back in the artifact draw. Because of how good they are, they should be expensive and quite rare. I'd like to get these in artifact pulls at least on rare occasion.


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Quasis is the one I really want badly into the draw, terraformers not so much because 1) I already have my Mission Exotic. 2) They are dropped by Troop Carriers already and 3) becuase I will get nothing but Terraformers(instead of Expanders) WHEN I do get this rare potential artifact for the artifact shipment thing!

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Quasis is the one I really want badly into the draw, terraformers not so much because 1) I already have my Mission Exotic. 2) They are dropped by Troop Carriers already and 3) becuase I will get nothing but Terraformers(instead of Expanders) WHEN I do get this rare potential artifact for the artifact shipment thing!
sooooo why not just ask for dan to increase the rate qse's drop from T.O. TC's?

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+1 to the energy cubes. And with battling a high level legion base you kind of need them

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lol, he said energy cubes are fine the way they are, as in, there would be no change.

i like these idea, the only thing i would suggest is the resource cap should be capped at 40. i see no reason it shouldnt be. if i want to put literally ALL my terraforming eggs into one basket, i should be allowed to do so.

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+1

I also wouldn't mind the Radiant Weapons Locker or the Alien Star Charts again. Be able to sell those for a decent amount of CTP if you don't wanna use them. Have them be around 20-30K arti points, and with a decent amount of rarity.

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Serorusly you want too punish people who buy gp by not giving them the same chance of getting GP from the daily freebie? that isn't how you retain paying customers.....

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Serorusly you want too punish people who buy gp by not giving them the same chance of getting GP from the daily freebie? that isn't how you retain paying customers.....


since they already BUY gp, then why would they need to get FREE gp? most of the people who buy GP do it with some regularity. when I have spare money I'll buy GP, but I don't think big spenders like Nocifer or AFluffyBunny need FREE GP, it can always be a free GP scaled to how often you buy, the less you buy, the slightly more likely you are to get those 2 free GP

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+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 to all of your ideas except the one with free GP dan has to make money somhow

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+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 to all of your ideas except the one with free GP dan has to make money somhow


to quote a friend in my legion

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all these new base GP items just bought dans wife a new car


he said this in the legion chat and it made me crack up because of how true it is

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Serorusly you want too punish people who buy gp by not giving them the same chance of getting GP from the daily freebie? that isn't how you retain paying customers.....


since they already BUY gp, then why would they need to get FREE gp? most of the people who buy GP do it with some regularity. when I have spare money I'll buy GP, but I don't think big spenders like Nocifer or AFluffyBunny need FREE GP, it can always be a free GP scaled to how often you buy, the less you buy, the slightly more likely you are to get those 2 free GP



They are still players why should they be treated as second class citizens? That is what your doing you are telling them "gee thanks for your money, oh now I am going to GIVE away that stuff you were buying too everyone who doesn't buy squat, and becuase you bought my stuff that I am now giving away for free, you can't even get it at the same odds! oh please keep buying my stuff" Umm ALL GP is good GP free, bought they just want gp, people who buy it actuly want it MORE then you (you know since they were willing to BUY it.) I could see it the other way however, maybe GP purchaeser get free GP more often, you know too encourage them too purchase more gp? Can you expain a SINGLE real world example where this would EVER not upset the GP buyers?

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They are still players why should they be treated as second class citizens? That is what your doing you are telling them "gee thanks for your money, oh now I am going to GIVE away that stuff you were buying too everyone who doesn't buy squat, and becuase you bought my stuff that I am now giving away for free, you can't even get it at the same odds! oh please keep buying my stuff" Umm ALL GP is good GP free, bought they just want gp, people who buy it actuly want it MORE then you (you know since they were willing to BUY it.) I could see it the other way however, maybe GP purchaeser get free GP more often, you know too encourage them too purchase more gp? Can you expain a SINGLE real world example where this would EVER not upset the GP buyers?


it is literally impossible to please everyone, so never bother trying to, also, did you consider there might be people who CAN'T buy GP because they can't AFFORD it? this idea was for THOSE people, not the people who can spend thousands of dollars on this game, and I know there are because Nocifer Deathblade and AFluffyBunny have admitted to spending around that much on this game. If people who spend a lot of money on a game whine because they aren't getting something for free, then they know where they can go.

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They are still players why should they be treated as second class citizens? That is what your doing you are telling them "gee thanks for your money, oh now I am going to GIVE away that stuff you were buying too everyone who doesn't buy squat, and becuase you bought my stuff that I am now giving away for free, you can't even get it at the same odds! oh please keep buying my stuff" Umm ALL GP is good GP free, bought they just want gp, people who buy it actuly want it MORE then you (you know since they were willing to BUY it.) I could see it the other way however, maybe GP purchaeser get free GP more often, you know too encourage them too purchase more gp? Can you expain a SINGLE real world example where this would EVER not upset the GP buyers?


it is literally impossible to please everyone, so never bother trying to, also, did you consider there might be people who CAN'T buy GP because they can't AFFORD it? this idea was for THOSE people, not the people who can spend thousands of dollars on this game, and I know there are because Nocifer Deathblade and AFluffyBunny have admitted to spending around that much on this game. If people who spend a lot of money on a game whine because they aren't getting something for free, then they know where they can go.



Your right it is imposable to please everyone. However from a game developer point of view wouldn't you say its better too please the people giveing you $1000's then the leeches giving you nothing ? So I ask you again, What makes you so ENTITLED too getting more free GP than someone who decides too support the game ? Now I am not against the idea of more free GP in the daily if it was universally fair.... but you seem to be under the impression that people who support Developers should be punished for it.

As for you saying people can't afford it I call bull they are CHOOSING not too buy it. You are choosing to purchase something else instead maybe you saw a movie or had a nice lunch out, or went on a vacation or even decided too have cable? everyone makes choices with there entertainment budget.

and for the record $1000 is pennys in the pot in terms of big spenders in facebook games, Check out SHC or Maphia wars. There are people on that game that have spend $10,000's Hell the top 20 on the hill in SHC EACH have spent $16,000 MINIMUM I took the time too work it out one day (thats when I decided being a super hero was too expensive for my blood)

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They are still players why should they be treated as second class citizens? That is what your doing you are telling them "gee thanks for your money, oh now I am going to GIVE away that stuff you were buying too everyone who doesn't buy squat, and becuase you bought my stuff that I am now giving away for free, you can't even get it at the same odds! oh please keep buying my stuff" Umm ALL GP is good GP free, bought they just want gp, people who buy it actuly want it MORE then you (you know since they were willing to BUY it.) I could see it the other way however, maybe GP purchaeser get free GP more often, you know too encourage them too purchase more gp? Can you expain a SINGLE real world example where this would EVER not upset the GP buyers?


it is literally impossible to please everyone, so never bother trying to, also, did you consider there might be people who CAN'T buy GP because they can't AFFORD it? this idea was for THOSE people, not the people who can spend thousands of dollars on this game, and I know there are because Nocifer Deathblade and AFluffyBunny have admitted to spending around that much on this game. If people who spend a lot of money on a game whine because they aren't getting something for free, then they know where they can go.



Your right it is imposable to please everyone. However from a game developer point of view wouldn't you say its better too please the people giveing you $1000's then the leeches giving you nothing ? So I ask you again, What makes you so ENTITLED too getting more free GP than someone who decides too support the game ? Now I am not against the idea of more free GP in the daily if it was universally fair.... but you seem to be under the impression that people who support Developers should be punished for it.

As for you saying people can't afford it I call bull they are CHOOSING not too buy it. You are choosing to purchase something else instead maybe you saw a movie or had a nice lunch out, or went on a vacation or even decided too have cable? everyone makes choices with there entertainment budget.

and for the record $1000 is pennys in the pot in terms of big spenders in facebook games, Check out SHC or Maphia wars. There are people on that game that have spend $10,000's Hell the top 20 on the hill in SHC EACH have spent $16,000 MINIMUM I took the time too work it out one day (thats when I decided being a super hero was too expensive for my blood)


you call them leaches, I call them people who either CAN'T afford to spend money on a facebook game or WON'T spend money on a facebook game, I know people in both categories. But please explain to me where 1 or 2 GP pops up in the daily about every month makes ANY difference to the people who spend THOUSANDS of REAL dollars on this game. 50 Dollars gives you 550 GP I know a guy who usually spends about 50 dollars a WEEK on this game. I'm sure he'd appreciate free GP, but 1 or 2 GP won't actually make any dent to him.

so if people who buy GP on a regular basis feel shafted because someone who doesn't or can't buy GP gets 1 or 2 once a month or every other month, then they are just a bunch of whiners who found something new to complain about.

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as I mentioned we all make choices with our spending, it is WON'T not CAN'T. If you won't spend money on a game why should the game give you stuff for free? Would not Free GP makes the same difference it makes you too, Maybe it pushes them over just enough to dump one more crummy planet? Just because it MIGHT have a larger impact on you doesn't mean it WON'T have an impact on them. Even CC players have limits. You still haven't answered my question. What makes you or any free player MORE entitled too free GP over a CC player?? Tell me what makes you better then Nocifer Deathblade, AFluffyBunny or even on the smaller scale myself?


Maybe your right in that they are just big whiners, However its though people who are funding ALL of your new content, Do you think a game developer is going too risk potential income loss (ie thoughs people quitting the game/slow down buying G because of this new thing ect) over equality? The concept of being a CC player is I get EVERYTHING the free player gets and more, if that changes I no longer have ANY motivation to be a CC player anymore. Why should I give you money if I am not getting the maximum possible edge? Just because I pay for more does not mean I should get less in another area.


I add this because takes MORE time too code in what it is your asking as apposed too what I would support (more GP for all). So not only are you asking the game developers too give you more free stuff, you are asking them too spend more time that could have been spent on game content that was PAID for by CC players too make CC players worse off. This is akin too asking too have some of a guys food, when he says yes only too take it all scarf it down then beat the nice guy who just gave you food senseless.

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Tell me what makes you better then Nocifer Deathblade, AFluffyBunny or even on the smaller scale myself?


umm... we havent been caught cheating?? haha.

anyway, the only thing kalos is asking here is enough gp for a normal player to get fathers or something. while youre right, we ARE 'choosing' not to spend money on this game, but for me, thats because if i do, i dont eat. nothing against the game, id love to cc so that dan would take some of my ideas more seriously. but unfortunately i cant. and i find it a bit unfortunate that i'm gonna have to get a 'mythical' daily reward 8 times in order to get one father. so you ask what makes us feel entitled to having free gp? perhaps the fact that players who do spend gp are automatically better off in the game (especially the smart ones who dont spend money on energy), are 'unbannable' (as i have yet to see a heavy ccer banned for a crime, no matter how extreme, no matter how much evidence is presented against them), and the fact that their ideas are more likely to be introduced (just look at noci's 'time manipulator restriction' idea. a horrible idea, but its in the game now). The only thing this free gp will allow us to do is get our energy charge rate up, and maybe abandon a few planets. the reason that ccers wont stop ccing is because with spending money on this game comes all of the previously stated privilages.

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Tell me what makes you better then Nocifer Deathblade, AFluffyBunny or even on the smaller scale myself?


umm... we havent been caught cheating?? haha.

anyway, the only thing kalos is asking here is enough gp for a normal player to get fathers or something. while youre right, we ARE 'choosing' not to spend money on this game, but for me, thats because if i do, i dont eat. nothing against the game, id love to cc so that dan would take some of my ideas more seriously. but unfortunately i cant. and i find it a bit unfortunate that i'm gonna have to get a 'mythical' daily reward 8 times in order to get one father. so you ask what makes us feel entitled to having free gp? perhaps the fact that players who do spend gp are automatically better off in the game (especially the smart ones who dont spend money on energy), are 'unbannable' (as i have yet to see a heavy ccer banned for a crime, no matter how extreme, no matter how much evidence is presented against them), and the fact that their ideas are more likely to be introduced (just look at noci's 'time manipulator restriction' idea. a horrible idea, but its in the game now). The only thing this free gp will allow us to do is get our energy charge rate up, and maybe abandon a few planets. the reason that ccers wont stop ccing is because with spending money on this game comes all of the previously stated privilages.



I am a newer member of the community here so maybe giving me some more background information on that chaeting thing would be helpful. I would also care too have some more background information about this "unbannable" deal as well. If my alterative more gp for everyone is done instead how does that stop YOU from getting what you want and keeping us happy? (and taking less coding time so more content for all)

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