When ice thaws, the liquid actually takes up a smaller volume than the solid, not the other way around. Why then does the mass surface melter make a planet BIGGER when it should in fact be smaller?

Because a terraformer to make a planet smaller would suck.

because dan said so

It'd make more sense as a mass surface FREEZER, which turned a oceanic into an icy.

(*sarcastically, in case you can't tell*) it makes sense just like a phasic chain ionizer allows you to place population on a gas planet after ionizing the entire atmosphere

i'm still lost on the logic behind that one

since when did heating something make it smaller.

Solid molecules are closely together
Liquid molecules are far apart
Gas Molecules become way far apart


Heating expands objects. While cooling them down will contract/compress molecules.

But with water, when it's frozen, the molecules line up in such a way that they take up MORE space than when it was a liquid.

Don't believe me? completely fill to the brim a bottle with water, screw the lid on, and put it in the freezer. The bottle will burst because the ice takes up more space than the water.

only problem with that example... most people are going to try it with a plastic bottle, which most will give a little as the water expands...

but aye, ice is less dense than water, which is why it floats at the top of your drinks...

i know what you are saying. its like putting a can of coke in the freezer and the can will break when the soda freezes.

I believe this is not because the liquid is the one expanding rather the container is contracting to the point of cracking.

Dan's logic here is correct. solid when heated expands.

Spyder is right. Ice is bigger than water... somehow.

You know ice takes up more space than water because even though they're the same thing, ice has a lower density than water. With almost all other substances, the solid form is more dense.

I see no land.






LAND AHOY!

come of the octafari chains artifacts have "hydro" in the name; hydroshifter for example.....just found out that hydro isn't water, it means water-LIKE, so I can just imagine the oceanics being filled with liquid methane lol
in witch case YES, they would expand when melted, would it expand TWO sizes? I doubt it but whatever...haha

maybe it also teleports in matter from an extra dimensional space ?

We're talking about the mass surface melter here.

IT'S A GAME!!!! IT DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE SENSE!!!! SHEESH!!