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Nocifer Deathblade
Joined: Mon May 03, 2010 5:48 am Posts: 1945
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Hmm, Is GD legion leaving rest of the rebellion out in the cold or what? We haven't been attacked by them in last 24 hours except FRAIL.. Just thought to say cuz I want them to come back and fight. If they are hiding, we will hunt them down for cowardice to their rebellion.. We were busy with PA, PGL and to lesser degree: DS (just two people I think).
I was asked from some of your sides why I can't do cease fire.. Sorry, I can't until our primary mission is achieved one way or other..
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:25 am |
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hunter
Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:27 am Posts: 672
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Nocifer Deathblade wrote: I was asked from some of your sides why I can't do cease fire.. Sorry, I can't until our primary mission is achieved one way or other.. that one way or the other includes the total destruction of GD because they are refusing to give back the planet. and from what i hear, one just like it was stolen from GD 1st. seems tit for tat to me... nothing really worth ripping apart a legion to extract. so if your wondering why PA is involved, that is why. as for the truce, PA will offer a truce to Dysonians if they stop all attacks and resume farming. anything else in the form of demands will be rejected.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:27 am |
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bobsmith
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:17 am Posts: 521
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Nope, no one was wondering.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:11 am |
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Veristek
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:30 am Posts: 1553
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hunter wrote: Nocifer Deathblade wrote: I was asked from some of your sides why I can't do cease fire.. Sorry, I can't until our primary mission is achieved one way or other.. that one way or the other includes the total destruction of GD because they are refusing to give back the planet. and from what i hear, one just like it was stolen from GD 1st. seems tit for tat to me... nothing really worth ripping apart a legion to extract. so if your wondering why PA is involved, that is why. as for the truce, PA will offer a truce to Dysonians if they stop all attacks and resume farming. anything else in the form of demands will be rejected. I think the major issue is that RogueForce paid real money to get that Exotic, which was generated through the mission HyperTerraformer. When you pay real cash on a FB game, then have it stolen away and fluxed, you'd think that the player would take it laying down? When it comes to real world money invested and consquently "lost" in a free-to-play game on FB, you can be sure the victims will cry for bloody revenge. Even worse, if there's no realistic or practical way of getting it back (i.e. paid-for planet is fluxed away) then that makes the desire for revenge even stronger. Rationality goes out of the window when money is involved like that. Sure, I can understand maybe letting it go if it was a natural exotic because you can scan or hack another exotic. You can't rebuild a new HyperTerraformer to re-terraform another planet into an Exotic. Ditto for Dysons made via Expanders + real cash / GP's. Its kind of like gambling in Las Vegas but with no chance of "winning" the lost money back. Sure, you can try hacking for it, but let's get real here. Critical hacks are much more rare now, and once you get one, there's a very small chance it'd reveal the stolen paid-for Exotic / Dyson instead of some other planet in the player's database. Very, very, very tiny chance. You'd have better luck winning the multi-million lotteries in real life.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:04 pm |
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Frail
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:09 am Posts: 413
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Veristek wrote: hunter wrote: Nocifer Deathblade wrote: I was asked from some of your sides why I can't do cease fire.. Sorry, I can't until our primary mission is achieved one way or other.. that one way or the other includes the total destruction of GD because they are refusing to give back the planet. and from what i hear, one just like it was stolen from GD 1st. seems tit for tat to me... nothing really worth ripping apart a legion to extract. so if your wondering why PA is involved, that is why. as for the truce, PA will offer a truce to Dysonians if they stop all attacks and resume farming. anything else in the form of demands will be rejected. I think the major issue is that RogueForce paid real money to get that Exotic, which was generated through the mission HyperTerraformer. When you pay real cash on a FB game, then have it stolen away and fluxed, you'd think that the player would take it laying down? When it comes to real world money invested and consquently "lost" in a free-to-play game on FB, you can be sure the victims will cry for bloody revenge. Even worse, if there's no realistic or practical way of getting it back (i.e. paid-for planet is fluxed away) then that makes the desire for revenge even stronger. Rationality goes out of the window when money is involved like that. Sure, I can understand maybe letting it go if it was a natural exotic because you can scan or hack another exotic. You can't rebuild a new HyperTerraformer to re-terraform another planet into an Exotic. Ditto for Dysons made via Expanders + real cash / GP's. Its kind of like gambling in Las Vegas but with no chance of "winning" the lost money back. Sure, you can try hacking for it, but let's get real here. Critical hacks are much more rare now, and once you get one, there's a very small chance it'd reveal the stolen paid-for Exotic / Dyson instead of some other planet in the player's database. Very, very, very tiny chance. You'd have better luck winning the multi-million lotteries in real life. If you had 2 planets. One a very massive 15x exotic that you paid for or a very massive 30x exotic which you found scanning. Which would you be more upset losing? (Disclaimer: this is just a hypothetical question and not based on a real like situation) Almost everyone would say the 30x, so this reasoning doesn't hold merit.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:27 pm |
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Remric
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:52 am Posts: 1742 Location: Bridge of my ship, preparing thousands of my tactical officers for the next battle
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I believe a 30x mega rich can't be made at this point. Only up to mega x15. You can find a natural mega rich x 48 dyson. best natural exotic share I have seen and heard so far is mega rich x 9. You will know its natural because the resources are not equal. If all the resources are equal then that would be a hyper terraformed planet.
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ExSeaD
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:43 pm Posts: 494
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GWW1 galaxy wide war 1 should be fun to watch.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:32 pm |
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BrianGameAcct
Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:45 pm Posts: 510
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Remric wrote: I believe a 30x mega rich can't be made at this point. Only up to mega x15. You can find a natural mega rich x 48 dyson. best natural exotic share I have seen and heard so far is mega rich x 9. You will know its natural because the resources are not equal. If all the resources are equal then that would be a hyper terraformed planet. I've seen a 39x mega rich shared! Damn I wish I would have got it missed it by a minute. So whether it was made by purchase or game obtained artifacts doesn't matter. I saw one. Frail wrote: If you had 2 planets. One a very massive 15x exotic that you paid for or a very massive 30x exotic which you found scanning. Which would you be more upset losing? (Disclaimer: this is just a hypothetical question and not based on a real like situation) Almost everyone would say the 30x, so this reasoning doesn't hold merit. Frail -- I personally would be far more upset over the one I bought with hard earned CASH. But then my 1st degree was economics BA '87. I'm going to assume you are smart and educated and didn't think this through considering the economics before you made your statement at all. Have you ever been told 'no you can't have X' go out and buy it with hard earned money. How much more was 'X' worth to you when you had to earn it! I would be damned if I wouldn't do everything I could to get it back and .... DAN you should be concerned that some of the players that left because they lost a planet they paid for might attack the game. Nothing like loss of hard earned money to make people irrational. And yes I have done some foolish things over the loss of money earlier in my life. DAN you really need to consider some method to protect the planets that players either pay money to create or work a long time to create! If you think people will continue to pay for items within this game that can be lost you are wrong. Maybe the solution would be to return the artifacts used to create the planet if it is lost. In other words you never lose a paid for artifact (whether directly or indirectly paid for). And the player who takes the planet gets the planet in it's natural state before it was built up with items paid for and those items returned to the player that paid for them. This would create another gaming balance to invading planets. You just might invade a EXCELLENT planet that is disappointing because it was created artificially and all your left with is the original state. This can work well with the planets that take months if not longer to create with special artifacts obtained from missions. Dan if Bubba Smith (and others) actually left the game because of this then you need to try something soon/now -- change it down the road. Dan you need revenue and need to keep paying customers happy. Did you ever work at McDonalds where the motto was the customer is always right; make them happy. Same applies to this game. Once someone has spent money they are more likely to spend again. What I have learned from this discussion is that you are a fool to purchase GP and get the artifacts to improve planets because it's likely that eventually you'll have the planet stolen the planet/cash.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:21 pm |
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SpoonyJank
Joined: Fri May 14, 2010 7:20 pm Posts: 1178
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Losing any planet is a tactical error whether you paid for it or not. I highly doubt anyone that is rank 200 is trying to be strong for their level just by owning a dyson. If they are, it is just another tactical error. People at rank 360 can still find you on the battle tab and you straight up are NOT going to get mauled just from someone finding you on the battle tab unless you let them. The only thing that can get you hacked UP TO YOUR LIMIT is if you get shared, and that means you are liable for whatever conflict you got yourself into with people that happen to be much higher than the level limits on the battle tab, which most people with this sob story have never had the opportunity to find out. Conflict in this game is almost totally avoidable. Cloak and don't attack people and you will almost never be hacked and certainly not to any degree where there is even a .001% chance of you losing a specific planet location. If you like a planet so much that you losing it will cause you to quit playing then cloak it more. If someone went to even halfway decent measures to safeguard something they care about THAT much, then there would only be an infinitesimal of ever losing it and I doubt there will ever be that legitimate of a sob story in the entire history of the game. Taking away the opportunity is as unfair to the entire concept of PVP as it is to as of yet maybe just a few people that, in my book, screwed the pooch anyways. Edit: and it is far from necesary to have to pay for an exotic and it is far from a gamebreaker. I am certainly nowhere near any supposed victim's level and it certainly wouldn't make me abandon my remaining investment, which is nothing. 
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:03 pm |
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BrianGameAcct
Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:45 pm Posts: 510
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SpoonyJank
It would be very nice of you to write up instructions for the rest of us on how to create a planet list such as yours.
In other words can I and other players repeat what you did to create that incredible list of planets. Although I am not going to spend dollars on creating it.
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:32 am |
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SpoonyJank
Joined: Fri May 14, 2010 7:20 pm Posts: 1178
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BrianGameAcct wrote: SpoonyJank
It would be very nice of you to write up instructions for the rest of us on how to create a planet list such as yours.
In other words can I and other players repeat what you did to create that incredible list of planets. Although I am not going to spend dollars on creating it. Hunt NPCs. Thats about it.
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:41 am |
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BrianGameAcct
Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:45 pm Posts: 510
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"Hunt NPCs. Thats about it."
I do that allot. So your suggesting that NPC's will drop the artifacts necessary to create such a great planet list?
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:48 am |
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Frail
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:09 am Posts: 413
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"Have you ever been told 'no you can't have X' go out and buy it with hard earned money. How much more was 'X' worth to you when you had to earn it!" You know that no one is saving up for months just to get these exotic planets. I did say "almost" everyone, because, I know there are always irrational people out there. You know that planet you love so much is just pixels on the screen, right. And that other planet is twice as useful. I could maybe understand if it had sentimental value to you. But, I did mention that it's just pixels on the screen.
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:54 am |
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XMuadibX
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:48 am Posts: 663
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What's a pixel?
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vladd13
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:05 pm Posts: 943
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Maudib wrote: What's a pixel? yer jokin right? . <----- pixel
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XMuadibX
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:48 am Posts: 663
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I was being sarcastic,yes
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bobsmith
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:17 am Posts: 521
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wait...just to clarify, Frail is saying the planets are worthless because they are pixels? Frail can I have your planets then? Also, can I have your debit card, those are just some worthless pixels right?
I'm totally confused by this statement and the fact that you play this game... Do people need sports cars that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars? Do people need 42 room houses? No one has ever seen an electron, their value must be horrible. Diamonds are boring chunks of carbon that people go nuts over. I'm dumbfounded by this comment, of all the things in the world that have no rationale, this is the topic you choose to pick?
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:30 am |
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Hawkeblade
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:29 pm Posts: 3022
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bobsmith wrote: I'm totally confused by this statement and the fact that you play this game... Do people need sports cars that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars? Do people need 42 room houses? No one has ever seen an electron, their value must be horrible. Diamonds are boring chunks of carbon that people go nuts over. Lets see....no, errr no, i value them, yes they are ppl are nuts. Edit: spoony ill trade you two terras x2 mega rich terras for your x4 rich Exotic?
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:35 am |
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Frail
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:09 am Posts: 413
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Umm, what are you talking about bob? Do you always just post meaningless knee jerk responses without reading everything.
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:25 am |
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bobsmith
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:17 am Posts: 521
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No I do not, and unless you can't understand my reply I would have expected you to post your own reply perhaps to elaborate on what you were trying to say. But it seems maybe you didn't understand what you posted either judging by your response.
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