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 Warning to the Pheonix Order - War Imminent 
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I could insult you, but that would make it worse.
I could plead with you, but you don't care.
I could reason with you, but you just like the thought of war for the sake of war.

So... Why don't I just say I surrender and you give up this crusade?


The conditions were set from the opening post...

I have no control over giving you the planet, and I have nothing else to offer you. So why are you blaming it on the Order as a whole when only 1 member has any ability to do anything about it?

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If you want to see how Zabanna operates (he lost the planet and has done this before.) Go to Legions tab, put the name Zabanna in the forum search option. From what I have been told PA considers this kind of entrapment... Great, But I would say it stains the whole PA Legion.


So at this time I invite anyone or any Legion who agrees to attack Project Anarchy.


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Comment from another GL player.. Qwerta, its true. Look in forum under legion tab about PA. There is several times he has done this. Its a trap of his. See he wins by getting a war for his stats and in the end gets his planet back as peace agreement.


Looks like PA actions are getting a lot of players on their backs. Qwerta.


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i wouldn't give the planet back don't let PA boss you around make em earn it and try to win the planet back.


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If you want to see how Zabanna operates (he lost the planet and has done this before.) Go to Legions tab, put the name Zabanna in the forum search option. From what I have been told PA considers this kind of entrapment... Great, But I would say it stains the whole PA Legion.


So at this time I invite anyone or any Legion who agrees to attack Project Anarchy.



that last comment reminds me of the mel brook's flick history of the world part 2 where the king declares "everyone jumps the queen!"

somehow though this does not seem destined to have the same outcome...

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If you want to see how Zabanna operates (he lost the planet and has done this before.) Go to Legions tab, put the name Zabanna in the forum search option. From what I have been told PA considers this kind of entrapment... Great, But I would say it stains the whole PA Legion.


So at this time I invite anyone or any Legion who agrees to attack Project Anarchy.

Our member has planets taken from him and this stains us?Yes thats what we do lose good planets so we can start wars,makes perfect sense :roll:

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random question maud dib what is Kwisatz Haderach?

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It's from Dune by Frank Herbert.


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[quote="Hawkeblade"]random question maud dib what is Kwisatz Haderach?[/quote
goes with my game name goggle it.

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So what Zabanna does is : leaves very good planets undefended/uncloaked as bait for the poor, unfortunate passers by so they attack and then war ensues. Cheeky, devious bastard. Totally a clear tactic from the part of , now stained, Project Anarchy. I must say that must be one of the best (derailed) train of thought I've seen so far.

Pro-tip : When you drool on a planet, before you try and take it/flux it/etc do try and look on the leaderboard and see where the legion in question is at. Then think of the consequences including but not limited at drawing your entire legion in a war you can only lose. I know a lot of players from Dysonians/Galaxy Desperados/Project Anarchy etc that don't really bother with building strong defense and/or cloak. And it makes sense since most of the players have enough brain power to realize what the consequences of attacking/fluxing a planet like that are. Obviously there will be players like Qwerta that will act first then think, coming up with excuses like "It was undefended so I had to take it" afterwards. The consequences ?

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I must say I have seen one of the items bugging and going negative before but all three... Shows you got some love going mate. Be happy Dan didn't implemented anything lower than "Laughable" as far as -kills goes. Because that's where you're going. Bad part is that your legion mates will suffer equally.

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My teammates didn't say it is a P.A. tactic, that it's instead a tactic that Zabanna has used several times before. It's in the forum for all to see, you just got to look for it and it will be found. Someone else also made a comment about why Zabanna and other members of your legion leave planets unprotected. Because nobody in their right mind would dare to commit such an action as this to the likes of your legion or any other legion with a powerful standing in this game. TRUE TO THAT. However thou, Zabanna said it best in the beginning that you all are a PvP clan. When any of you guys attack and cite that it's part of the game just take your licks and move on or go do it to others as it was done to you. Because you guys have 2 rules, Honor NAP treaties and don't apologize for anything. We understand about wanting to get a planet back and about chooseing common sense when making choices such as this. I just don't understand how a war is gonna ensue over a planet that was lost. The standard 48 hours of retaliation is over or close to it. Let the two combatants duke it out, as it should be.

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If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.... kinda fits in this situation.
Just know who's planet you are taking and if you still want to go through with it... be ready for some repercussions.
Especially by PA... it's just going to happen.

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Even though I blame Zabanna completely, I still don't like how PA treats even the smallest of attacks as full blown war. And really I am just fed up with big legions going to war with smaller legions, as Pirates of the Cove just declared war on us as well.

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Even though I blame Zabanna completely, I still don't like how PA treats even the smallest of attacks as full blown war. And really I am just fed up with big legions going to war with smaller legions, as Pirates of the Cove just declared war on us as well.

Than stop taking planets from Legions you cant fight it's that simple stop making excuses and blaming our member because one of yours took his planet he did not set you up so we could fight a war with you.No more will be said on this topic he has said he would take minerals and a flux and you cant or wont pay that either enough talk your now gonna have to take the lumps!!!

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Even though I blame Zabanna completely, I still don't like how PA treats even the smallest of attacks as full blown war. And really I am just fed up with big legions going to war with smaller legions, as Pirates of the Cove just declared war on us as well.

Than stop taking planets from Legions you cant fight it's that simple stop making excuses and blaming our member because one of yours took his planet he did not set you up so we could fight a war with you.No more will be said on this topic he has said he would take minerals and a flux and you cant or wont pay that either enough talk your now gonna have to take the lumps!!!

So you know, I have neither the flux nor kurenite. I did not start this war, and I am certainly not going to win. I've lost 2 disables, 8 hacks, and 8 raids from PA with only landing 1 disable. The best I can say is leave me out of it.

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Zophah, there has to be some accountabily for members actions or what is the point of a legion beyond becoming a gang of toughs?

That said, it would seem when this is retaliation in theory (as opposed to war for a reason other than retaliation lol) perhaps legions could agree to terms of conduct.

i grant it may be sort of counter productive to the war concept, but say for arguments sake, if a member is disabled 3* he's out of the war unless he continues to fight, than he's still fair game. Would that not satisfy honor and ensure the discouragement of those who may have acted foolishly beforehand? I suppose for the leaders it causes more work but it might make it a more interesting process overall. For the offender who allegedly caused the war, there could be a separate option re # of disablements or s/he could be excluded. That seems unfair to me(for reasons that are probably obvious lol) but any agreement would have to be worked out between the legions anyway. Those that get cut out of such a deal for being the cause either likely deserved it or don't belong in the legion in question anyway.

wars as competition of course have their own rules (look at talon v alpha for instance) tho i daresay one of the rules most would want is no planet jacking if such was agreeable.

bottom line if the planet aint coming back, there's got to be some point where everyone's had their fill. whats the harm in determining that beforehand?

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Zophah, there has to be some accountabily for members actions or what is the point of a legion beyond becoming a gang of toughs?

That said, it would seem when this is retaliation in theory (as opposed to war for a reason other than retaliation lol) perhaps legions could agree to terms of conduct.

i grant it may be sort of counter productive to the war concept, but say for arguments sake, if a member is disabled 3* he's out of the war unless he continues to fight, than he's still fair game. Would that not satisfy honor and ensure the discouragement of those who may have acted foolishly beforehand? I suppose for the leaders it causes more work but it might make it a more interesting process overall. For the offender who allegedly caused the war, there could be a separate option re # of disablements or s/he could be excluded. That seems unfair to me(for reasons that are probably obvious lol) but any agreement would have to be worked out between the legions anyway. Those that get cut out of such a deal for being the cause either likely deserved it or don't belong in the legion in question anyway.

wars as competition of course have their own rules (look at talon v alpha for instance) tho i daresay one of the rules most would want is no planet jacking if such was agreeable.

bottom line if the planet aint coming back, there's got to be some point where everyone's had their fill. whats the harm in determining that beforehand?

That is a good point.
@PA: other than the compensation, how many disables/hacks/raids so you think is enough retribution for taking your planet? I am willing to accept getting my butt kicked if a reasonably defined amount of butt-kicks is predetermined.

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It's probably gonna take as long as the time needed for the next moron to decide that a PA planet it's just as good as any. By the way, taking away a planet and fluxing it can hardly be described as "the smallest of attacks". That's quite an offence.

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It's probably gonna take as long as the time needed for the next moron to decide that a PA planet it's just as good as any. By the way, taking away a planet and fluxing it can hardly be described as "the smallest of attacks". That's quite an offence.

Sorry, I should have clarified. I know planets are a big deal for most players, I was speaking of a past incident where PA went to war over a single disable. That was a long time ago... It may not even be true anymore, but that was what came to mind.

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