Worked like what? You haven't stated your grand philosophy and nor have I. I don't really think a philosophy is the sole determining factor for which legion people join anyways. I'm willing to be flexible with mine and if that is the idea that bothers you then you may as well be in Xx Blitz xX's little fascist regime. Not everything is a betrayal when you aren't forcing it to be to yourself and others. I'm guessing people that leave the dysonians get hunted till they leave the game and you probably go about things the same way within your own means because of they way you CHOOSE to view the events as they unfold. The legions that have contributed members to our cause don't feel betrayed and we have NAPs with them. I highly doubt anyone is going to violate those NAPs. They believe thier cause is our cause and that this is a more effective way to promote those causes. I'm not going behind everyone's back to recruit members. I approached leadership and then made a thread for people to choose for themselves. It is your choice if you want to hate them for leaving to persue a more effective way to achieve their objectives whether that objective is to unite against a common enemy or to just have fun. Those two things often go hand in hand when people aren't forced into conflict.

Spoony, where did I say in all that above that I hated anyone? I really don't know where you are coming up with that. I think you are reading a whole lot more into things then what was said. You did notify me about your recruiting and I told you that you were welcome to. I would much rather my people be honest and go where they would be happy than feel like they have to hide things from me.

Again, I said I have high hopes for you guys, not that I hated the people that left. In fact the promise I enforce is that if a member leaves on good terms, their choice and in turn any planet shares are respected.

The one part I will disagree with is that I have yet to see your way is more effective. I am not saying it is or that it is not, just that it remains to be seen.

I'll applaud Spoony for his attempt here. I think I understand what he is trying to do.

It looks to me as if Spoony wants to throw some more fun at some higher ranked members of the community. If it takes higher members to do it for him then I can understand it. He does talk about this being a higher ranked legion with the goal of going after higher ranked legions then themselves. I can support this easily. Where I will watch is to see what happens when lower levels are alerted to boost stats.

I've seen plenty of Legions that cry about it when higher ranked players are targeting them and turn around and do the same things themselves... I'm not high enough in rank to be desired by this new legion nor do I have a desire to leave where I am. But I can support Spoony's ideas and attempts at increasing his level of enjoyment from the game.

I will take a small exception to What Spoony said about lower level players bringing down a higher ranked few in their legions. I've seen the other side of it and I can say as a Legion Leader that it has been very rewarding watching several members of my Legion grow and take different roads from the one I chose for myself. I have a few INSANE PvPers. a number of us are NPC farmers like no others. And still some others balance out their game in a variety of different and new ways to keep it entertaining for themselves.

I myself rarely get into alert fighting simply because my size is too big to be targeting some of these smaller players. I do make the occasional exception from time to time when a player just won't leave lower ranked members alone to pad his own stats.

It's been fun for me to watch some of my smaller members grow and change the way they play or get better at what they are already doing. In short it comes down to what makes the game fun for you? I hope it works for Spoony. If it keeps him around and playing it's all the better. I just hope they don't waver from some of their original ideas. If you want to make a new Mega-Legion then do so. Just don't do it on the backs of smaller ones for stats.

What is funny is that legions think they are doing well when they move up the leaderboard and it makes them want to stick together more when it has nothing to do with them doing well or growing. Membership change is the only thing affecting the legion leaderboard. Whatever monkey wrench this legion is somehow makes people think they are actually doing better than before and makes them want to stick it out and not actually join a legion like this one... oh well.

Fascist regime? I really hope you aren't referring to The Dysonians (though, truthfully, I know you are - your delusion has no basis in reality....). Your guess about what happens to members that leave the Dysonians is incredibly ignorant, and very indicative of your own personal hatred of the top legion in the game. No one hunts down members that leave. No one in our legion cares. We have everything that you wished you had, and you hate us for it.
Lets be truthful here. Your legion has a lot of high ranking individuals, but no one of any particular note. I personally disabled 23% of your legion singlehandedly in less than 5 minutes, and all of them were above my rank. None of them were hard to kill. You have no vetting process. You will accept some of the biggest scrubs in the game because they have rank, and you are chasing a leaderboard ranking.

I almost feel sorry for you. You are, for some reason, under the impression that you are incredibly smart, and able to lead a legion. Rebel Scum will end up the same as Dark Side. A legion full of easy kills, easy farming, and no risk of meaningful retaliations.

I have to disagree just a bit on the no one of particular note!

We have never hunted/targeted/blackballed anyone who ever left Dysonians. I STILL don't whack old friends in other guilds that I was pals with and use to hunt with. I can't say that is always returned, of course. It makes me a little sad when I see someone has de-freinded me and attacked for a red badge, but it has happened. Same thing with planets...I have a big fat red crown on certain juicy worlds that belong to former Legion mates that I simply wont touch and used a star chart purger on so I won't even be tempted by a mega-colossal ocean world with 10X everything and ZERO defense.

I am a bit uneasy with people giving intel on our rules, alerts or policies that have never been in our Legion. I read and shake my head at how we apparently sacrifice babies and coat the hulls of our ships with the skins of our foes' dead children. I think our legion simply works and people are justifiably afraid of us, or at least cautious. I am ok when someone sees me in the battle tab and goes..."Ehhh....I will pick someone else." when they see my Legion.

*shrug* That's what a Legion is supposed to do, among many other things, of course!

Good luck, Baltar...if nothing else it will be another pack of enemies to crush and see driven before us. It's more fun when people organize and fight back!

Regards,
Helmet

...It's just the impression that I get from a bunch of emo dudes with X's around their names.

I love what spoony is doing here, you might ask yourself, what exactly is spoony doing here? he's entertaining me lol. I find the whole thing hilarious. I love the legion name, the logo, and the motto "Scum rises to the top" lol it's all pretty funny.

I think it's great he wants to have the anti dysonian legion. I think it's safe to say we encourage competition. The nice thing about the rebel scum is it seems to be a gathering of all the annoying people into one place. Now we don't have to look for them anymore lol. Now if cyberatheist would just join you it would be all the more complete.

As for the other random remarks (and there seem to be plenty) I can't recall anyone ever coming and going from the Dysonians, no one quits(you don't know the power of the dark side), we have never had to go after someone and harass them relentlessly or whatever you're suggesting lol. Hardstyle is the only one I can think of, and I think he just quits the game frequently because he becomes confused as to where he is, and besides the fact that he was probably too drunk to ever remember having played the game in the first place.

We have pretty much the same rules as anyone else, we even tried to make things fair for people outside the legion. It seems to be true that you're always the bad guy when you're at the top, so I think most of us don't care anymore, think what you will.

I'm happy to play the role of the bad guy, but at least just hate us for a credible reason, don't randomly make stuff up, or at least make it funny if you do.

Sadly a lot of people are getting bored with the game. Including a lot of us, we are all more or less doing the same thing, collecting resource spending energy and hoping that the newest content updates are all they are cracked up to be. As of right now the content in the game is just coming far too slow. We get a lot of the same stuff over and over.

Crap like this thread is about the only entertaining portion of the game right now, and I think that's the only thing spoony is truly trying to do here.

23%? well you either care so much it is scary, or you are quite the butt-hurt math wiz.

At least he admits they farm people. I was tired of hearing Dy_es lie about not doing it.

Since badges came out especially, everyone farms everyone. So what?

No, not really. Not everyone will sit there and use 5-10 time manipulators on you.

That is true.

And not everyone farms for badges. I've revamped my PvP strategy since they came out. I don't typically hit from the BT anymore since most of those I see on mine are at the seriously lower end of my 40% And the majority of those above my rank that pop up are "TRAPPED UP" I reserve most of my PvP strategy. for alerts of higher ranked players that farm my lower ranks for badges. So I pick up a couple badges a week if I'm lucky.

Anyway I doubt everyone hates the Dysonians. I personally don't but I've never found myself on the receiving end of their fury either. I do ahve a couple of friends there and they will always be friends.

I still say if Spoony is having fun with this new Legion more power to him.

Definitely an entertaining thread.

I'm one of those people who is hoping that Rebel Scum does well. Good luck to you guys.

23 percent? so you disabled like 3 people or so out of the 14 total....lol. that would have been really impressive if there would have been 50 of us.

Not "like 3". Exactly 3.

proof of evil... viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5790 ... TADA!!!

so Rebel Scum disbanded? what happened to everyone in it?