Perhaps. I can't say I've seen that.

Not sure just how low you are, but people who have just started will think that the RP loss is devastating and alert for it.

I'm usually hacking ranks of low 20s-mid 30s, so I'd assume by now losing out on 10-50 RP wouldn't be such a huge deal. I wouldn't mind so much if they'd just blow all of their energy into my hull, but instead they usually won't fight back (people used to hit me for a few hundred damage a lot when I first started hacking, I think they might just know it's not worth it now), alert me, or try to kill me and then alert me when they fail.

I like hacking but to be fair its pants! What about when u successfully hack crit hack someone witch only happens once in a blue moon(witch needs to be fixed also) you can hack into their credit funds and steal a percent of their credits!

Problem was, I never mentioned proficient. Anything less than going all out typically means you're bait - this coming from the guy who, according to Galaxy Pub, apparently is the highest strength ship for his rank class.
First, we need to discount that you are Zolazin. Can anyone become Zolazin? Yes! But since cloak determines whether or not you can even TRY to hack in the first place, it skews the matter a bit for a person of every single other race.
Second, the problem is most people, with a bare minimum of a few NPC and mission modules may be able to hack 1-3 people per battle tab. That's typically how it works for me unless I want to blow a few artifacts to bring them down. And this is really only rank 300+ where you begin to have enough deck to branch out into other, less-necessary modules.
Second, while you might be able to hit the PvP'ers for your single hack of a few hundred RP (maybe) every fifteen minutes.. well, they PvP. You're about to be hit for a potential 200M, plus containment cage for any debuffs. That's pretty badly skewed.





Problem is damage can be applied to a wide variety of things that offer vastly superior rewards. And Hell, I'm a Konqul so I get a +20% damage boost! But NPC's, Bases, Players, all of these give much, much better rewards than a few blue badges. And damage - hacking is not the same whatsoever. Hacking is Pass/Fail, and typically you have an excellent chain to pass. Even I do, with a bare minimum of stats. Damage however is additive, and since NPC and Bosses only need so much damage in order to lock, the potential +600 boost is enormous for many players, typically being a 10-50% boost when you get all four.

Meanwhile, after .. what.. 416 blue badges, that's 104 hours of hacking without a time manipulator (With a fifteen minute break, not counting your failures, between each hack) .. you get.. what. A better chance to hack. And by then, why would you care about hacking? Quad frames? Meh. And if you have 416, chances are you probably have the statistics to be guaranteed a hack.




Fact is hacking is incredibly broken.

I honestly like the fact that hacking returns 0 xp. Lets you slow your ranking down and catch up on your research.

I would like some better RP scaling.

On undetectable hacks... perhaps if you had to spend energy to track down and lock the hacker rather than them being entirely undetectable.

I enjoy that hacking gives no exp as well and would not want this to change.

I just wish I got more per hack (although I'm pretty certain that increases as your rank does), or more/better rewards. Right now I'm hundreds of badges over what even all the quads and bots cost, but I'm still going just so I can have badges for nexus'. Worst case scenario, bots still scrap for CTP.

I'm working off almost no sleep in three days from Finals and I'm not thinking about how balanced this is right now or how well it plays into my other plans, butttttttttt:

How about if they have tech passed your current level, there is a "subcritical" hack chance you can gain a % on your research.

"You successfully hack the target!"
Heavy Proton Schematics downloaded: +5%

That would only really work until the higher levels, but it helps give a tech boost to guys that are probably not strong enough to invade planets left and right given their module loadout.

Again, was throwing that out before I went to sleep. Night.

suggestions: the hack critical fail and critical successes are way too infrequent and way too costly. I have crit succeeded once and got an average sized VA... I crit failed once and lost a terra from it. Instead, make a crit success undetectable and easier to achieve and a crit failure cost RP more heavily (making it deductable from the next drop, giving you a -rp) as you have to stop to fix your computer.

I also think hack and raid should be off of seperate timers, or perhaps even offer a hack option versus NPC's.

Over all, I agree with the general board. Hacking gives less reward and gearing up for it costs way too much at the cost of combat. while combat gives you NPC's with game changing artifacts and the best XP in the game. I liked the idea of hacking at the start of the game, but now all hacking does is let me flag myself for an opponent asking him to disable me and raid me because my defenses are all on hacking.

To: KT812

The planets you detect/reveal on criticals are at random aren't they? If so that IS fair. To make it fair. If we switch crit fail to computer repair, Dan would have to take the planets completely out of the equation (one time cost vs. a planet that gets you credits. That wouldn't be fair, now would it?)

Bump

tbh, i completely forgot about this thread, but i agree that hacking needs to be changed... several good ideas were proposed here. i would like to see at least one implemented.

Maybe QFTs shouldn't be tripped if you don't get any research from your hack (You were successful, but the enemy had no research).

+1 an dhow's about make them 1 hour