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argoul
Joined: Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:54 pm Posts: 5
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I put the population of a planete with 40 def 40 attack to 0 than, when i clicked on the ''invade'' it said ''failed, you got 44% to invade it blablabla'' but i had 144 attack and 38 def against this crappy 40 def 40 attack.
Now i wonder why i did not got it.
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Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:43 am |
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mojo311
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:47 pm Posts: 2180
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Because your attack is to low it has to be much higher to get a 100% chance. Keep working on it and you will get there. That happens a lot more when you are a small rank than at a higher one.
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Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:47 am |
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Cothordin
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:49 am Posts: 2606 Location: Cowland
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actually the chance caps at 90%, so theres always a chance at failure. But yes you need to completely overpower a planet to reach the cap.
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Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:50 am |
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mojo311
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:47 pm Posts: 2180
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thanks coth I never stopped to check. 
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Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:23 am |
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zophah
Joined: Sat May 22, 2010 6:22 pm Posts: 1760 Location: On the bridge of the Vikiera
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I don't know the actual statistics, but I always think of planet defenses as X4 what it shows. 30 attack on a planet can still do some good damage against noobs, And as you can see here 40 defense can easily deal with 144 attack.
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Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:26 am |
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DMDMDM
Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:35 am Posts: 906
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The game could at least tell you your chances before you make the move tho. Afaik doesn't happen that way.
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Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:29 am |
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1evil1
Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:41 pm Posts: 12
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I don't think even if you know your chances it matters. I invaded a planet that had no defenses only a guard and after killing off the population and the guard I failed. I took screenshot cause it was so unbelievable. My attack was 936 against 0 defense and lost even though my chance of success was 90% and this is not the only time this has happened. I understand the 10% failure chance but it seems to happen quite often. IMO, I think if a planet has no defense there is no reason why I should have any percent of failure.
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Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:48 pm |
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1evil1
Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:41 pm Posts: 12
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I would also like to add that since my post I had 3 more tries with a 90% chance and failed them all. Two of those in a row on the same planet, something sounds off about those odds.
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Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:24 pm |
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zophah
Joined: Sat May 22, 2010 6:22 pm Posts: 1760 Location: On the bridge of the Vikiera
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1evil1 wrote: I would also like to add that since my post I had 3 more tries with a 90% chance and failed them all. Two of those in a row on the same planet, something sounds off about those odds. That is why I suggested a few weeks ago that the invasion cap needs to be changed. I thought the best way to do this was have invasion attack count over the 90% but normal attack will be limited to 90%
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Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:24 pm |
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Frail
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:09 am Posts: 413
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1evil1 wrote: I would also like to add that since my post I had 3 more tries with a 90% chance and failed them all. Two of those in a row on the same planet, something sounds off about those odds. One person failing 3 times in a row on a 90% chance is just bad luck (I've had worse luck playing poker). Now if it happened to several people within a short period of time, then there might be something wrong with the programming.
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Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:44 pm |
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SpoonyJank
Joined: Fri May 14, 2010 7:20 pm Posts: 1178
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It's the Endor factor. Sometimes your massive imperial invasion force is thwarted by a lowly bunch of ewoks.
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Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:13 pm |
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zophah
Joined: Sat May 22, 2010 6:22 pm Posts: 1760 Location: On the bridge of the Vikiera
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SpoonyJank wrote: It's the Endor factor. Sometimes your massive imperial invasion force is thwarted by a lowly bunch of ewoks. Yes, but that implies there is still defenses to speak of.
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Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:44 pm |
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SpoonyJank
Joined: Fri May 14, 2010 7:20 pm Posts: 1178
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The natural fauna of any planet could count as more defense than a bunch of 12 inch bows that probably wouldn't even show up on a scanner anyways. I mean it could be the weather in most cases.
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Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:48 pm |
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zophah
Joined: Sat May 22, 2010 6:22 pm Posts: 1760 Location: On the bridge of the Vikiera
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SpoonyJank wrote: The natural fauna of any planet could count as more defense than a bunch of 12 inch bows that probably wouldn't even show up on a scanner anyways. I mean it could be the weather in most cases. Like Napoleon attacking Russia and ending up in a snowstorm? Ironically an ion storm charge actually lowers the planet defenses. and Napoleon was stupid enough to attack Russia in winter. I would think that a ship loaded to the brim with crimson weapons and heavy quantum disruptors would be powerful enough to vaporize a planet that has no defenses.
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:55 am |
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1evil1
Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:41 pm Posts: 12
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Love the responses! Is there an artifact of some sort I can use that will help if your chance is already 90%? That is the highest it goes, right? I think zophah was right about working on the invasion cap. I've also always wondered why I could lose multiple planets in battle in one day but only be able to try to reclaim one a day.
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:50 pm |
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Drake Oblivion
Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:57 pm Posts: 216
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I love how some perceive it as luck. If the cap is 90%, and you fail 3 times, that to me, is a 25% chance... LoL
Its like scan blitzing now. How on earth can I fail a scan almost 10 times during a blitz while the success rate was at 99%...
Albeit, I came to learn that I failed if I rushed the scan. Slowed down the blitz, happened far less often. In any case, makes you wonder if those percentages have some hidden factor. So... Its 90%, IF the planet's moons are in retrograde AND the local fauna aren't in mating season... Very unlucky if you try to invade during those volatile times. . .
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:28 pm |
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wolfprince01
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:52 am Posts: 448
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on scanning the 99% is to find a planet then if theres any cloak on the planet it makes another roll vs its cloak.
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Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:51 pm |
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FerrusManus
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:32 am Posts: 4524
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Drake Oblivion wrote: I love how some perceive it as luck. If the cap is 90%, and you fail 3 times, that to me, is a 25% chance... LoL
Its like scan blitzing now. How on earth can I fail a scan almost 10 times during a blitz while the success rate was at 99%...
Albeit, I came to learn that I failed if I rushed the scan. Slowed down the blitz, happened far less often. In any case, makes you wonder if those percentages have some hidden factor. So... Its 90%, IF the planet's moons are in retrograde AND the local fauna aren't in mating season... Very unlucky if you try to invade during those volatile times. . . That's just bad statistics, you can't say that you failed 3 times and got it once so it was a 25% chance, there was just a .09% chance that it would happen like that, so it was just bad luck. You need a lot more than 4 test cases to say with any certainty what the likelihood is.
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