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Nova149
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:38 am Posts: 297
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As the title says... yeah, no?
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:40 am |
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TimeManipulator
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:13 pm Posts: 2711 Location: Somewhere trying to find a way to increase the use of Time Manipulators.
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Have a trap probe before hitting the ship... yeah, no?
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:20 am |
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Preliator Xzien
Joined: Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:56 pm Posts: 8877 Location: Behind you... Stop looking behind you...
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Besides the point in this one SKAL. This has been a frequent topic for ages before someone even pointed out the trap probes usage.
I give it a +1, as always.
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:04 am |
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Nova149
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:38 am Posts: 297
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SirKillsALot wrote: Have a trap probe before hitting the ship... yeah, no? But it's a win-win scenario for pacifists and pvpers : pvpers wouldn't need to waste null fuses for halced players, unless they hit a k trap on first hit. It would also eliminate the risk of pacifists being killed even with halc. ( Some halcs are set of on kill shot)
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:11 am |
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icarium81
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 3056
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main argument number one. I want to BUMP people who APPEAR to be running a halc, which is ANYONE who has an action count of 3/5/5, I should be able to bump them without the game thinking im attacking in force.
TWO. why dont YOU check their action count... if you see 3/5/5, DONT HIT THEM! you can, but dont be surprised if you hit a halc.
THREE. If your hitting them and they have two other traps (krio and omicron) then theres a damn high chance they have a third trap just waiting in store for you... take a guess what it is.
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KxG Ryoko
Joined: Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:31 am Posts: 945 Location: Midchilda Section Six
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yea-NO -1
pacifists/people concentrating on other aspects of the game have the right to set their traps in the order they want.
these Halc first ideas are always suggested with one of the pros being "PvPers don't have to deal with the consequences of attacking someone".
you attack me, i'll shove a Krio down your throat, keep coming and you'll eat a halc if I'm busy with other aspects of the game.
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:47 pm |
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icarium81
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 3056
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thats entirely not the argument being presented here.. the OP just wants halcs to trigger on the first hit. nothing was said about other traps.
My post on the other hand included them, since ive seen this thread many times over and im ok with the way things are. the EASIEST way to avoid the halc is to find someone with anything higher then 3/5/5. after that, its a gamble on what you'll hit first. but most people apply traps in the same order
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:02 pm |
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Nova149
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:38 am Posts: 297
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Okay guys, i understand, i was suggesting it in the interest of everyone, not solely on my background pvp experiences, i saw alot of topics about null fuses wasted over halced players. Anyways, i just thought up of another flaw, if halced players are being bumped all the time, they would need to reset there traps.. frequently
Anyways, sorry if i err.. annoyed anyone by suggesting something that wasn't thought through thoroughly.
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:12 pm |
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Billik
Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:40 am Posts: 2812 Location: Just go north, and keep on going.
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Simple solution, zero their hacks, get yourself alerted, and now you have quite a few targets to hit
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:07 pm |
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TimeManipulator
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:13 pm Posts: 2711 Location: Somewhere trying to find a way to increase the use of Time Manipulators.
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To be honest I kind of hate hitting a kvt, halc when I'm out of trap probes so hitting halc on my first hit will make my badge run alot easier so somewhat +1 here as a PvPer.
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:08 pm |
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elerian
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:25 am Posts: 2360 Location: New York
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how about we make them all work the same and say QFT not always on first hack??
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Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:29 pm |
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icarium81
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 3056
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i agree with that one... what SHOULD happen is QFT goes off on a RANDOM hack, just like halc/krio/omic, and it should ALSO block you from getting the research for THAT hack, then you can null it if you can, and continue of for badges..or if you already got a badge, continue on to the next victim.
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Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:29 am Posts: 312
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Darth.Alex
Joined: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:44 pm Posts: 300
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SirKillsALot wrote: Have a trap probe before hitting the ship... yeah, no? ha lol
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:11 pm |
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masterlynch4
Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:44 am Posts: 169
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icarium81 wrote: i agree with that one... what SHOULD happen is QFT goes off on a RANDOM hack, just like halc/krio/omic, and it should ALSO block you from getting the research for THAT hack, then you can null it if you can, and continue of for badges..or if you already got a badge, continue on to the next victim. yea but it takes multiple hits to set off the traps because you need multiple hits to get a successful disable you only need 1 hack to get a successful hack. The research part i agree with completely because i personally find the QFT a troll trap because it doesn't protect the person from getting research points stolen it just hurts/annoys the person getting the research points.
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:44 pm |
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PLURVIOUS
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:10 am Posts: 1653 Location: Shredding NPCs and fantasizing about natural Dysons in this beefy UFO that I built in my basement
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Happens to me all the time; I count the "loss" of energy and a fuse as the cost of doing business. No different from the loss of energy balance when ranking or loss of resource production when capacity is reached. PVP is rough sometimes - cry about it.
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