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The Exterminator
Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:17 pm Posts: 1232
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Zargor wrote: icarium81 wrote: heres why i see this never happening.
DAN LOSES ALL MONEY FROM THAT WHOLE CHAIN.
Why would you spend ANY money to get rifts, when you can just FIND THEM??
I've bought/stole/stole and STOLE, my way into my current arti production of 10K+/hr, and im able to purge about 40 planets a week on average... So I wait a few weeks, purge everything and scan another 300.... I'm not even 1/4 of the rank that the top people are. (im 324), and thats what I can manage. What do you think someone who is getting 3 or 4 times the arti production that i am is capable of? I dare u to get 20k+/hr at rank 648  I have 26300 at 622. To the idea. -1, Dysons are already in the game.
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Uy23e
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:04 am Posts: 1998
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The Exterminator wrote: Zargor wrote: icarium81 wrote: heres why i see this never happening.
DAN LOSES ALL MONEY FROM THAT WHOLE CHAIN.
Why would you spend ANY money to get rifts, when you can just FIND THEM??
I've bought/stole/stole and STOLE, my way into my current arti production of 10K+/hr, and im able to purge about 40 planets a week on average... So I wait a few weeks, purge everything and scan another 300.... I'm not even 1/4 of the rank that the top people are. (im 324), and thats what I can manage. What do you think someone who is getting 3 or 4 times the arti production that i am is capable of? I dare u to get 20k+/hr at rank 648  I have 26300 at 622. To the idea. -1, Dysons are already in the game. That's a horrible reason following that logic, why does dyson exist at all? Dan might as well made some larger exotic and no natural dyson at all. Frankly, I think there should be natural rifts, thou they probably will not serve purpures that is much different from dyson, just cause there canbe random rifts in the universe
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Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:22 am |
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The Exterminator
Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:17 pm Posts: 1232
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Dan would never add this as he is losing money.
- Natural Dysons are already in the game, A HUGE resource planet. Having one of these, would put off someone getting a mission planet for a while, Unless that wanted to rift it.
With the rift people will try and scan these instead of using terraformers/quasis to make good planets IMO
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Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:37 am |
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Uy23e
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:04 am Posts: 1998
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The Exterminator wrote: Dan would never add this as he is losing money.
- Natural Dysons are already in the game, A HUGE resource planet. Having one of these, would put off someone getting a mission planet for a while, Unless that wanted to rift it.
With the rift people will try and scan these instead of using terraformers/quasis to make good planets IMO Does it rly? Maybe the next time Dan adds 2m planets into the game, instead of adding say 100 dyson, he can add 50 rift and 50 dysons. As long as the ratio of awesome planet doesn't change, does it really matter what it is? In fact, he could very well pull all the un-scanned dyson out of the database(which there might be a very tiny amount of) and delete those and insert dyson in their stead. Furthermore, one or two good planet probably won't really change the drive to purchase good planets. If rift mission is repeatable, do you think there would be ppl who would do more than 3? I think there will be. And for each natural rift, perhaps one less than the amount ppl would do should the mission be repeatable. but as long as the amount is still over 3, it doesn't make a difference under current game setting. Sure, there might be a few ppl who would buy less rifts. But how many do you think that would be? Frankly, for every 20 natural rift added into the universe, chances are there would only be 1 less rift purchased. Most ppl would either have bought the rift, not gonna buy anyway or the natural rift won't really affect their decision. And given the probably small number of addion, the overall change on that aspect would be very small. awesome planets are not hamburgers which you can only eat so many of, you can never have too many. Adding to that, rift planets will likely worth a reality transfuser for some(in fact, in the long run, probably 1 transformer for each 2 planets), and there is the off chance of flux sale(thou those are usually traded for~) amough other things should natural rift be added. Because they will be fought over. Would a small limited number of rift planet addion REALLY lower overall income? There are economical situations that are not perfect subsitution you know~ PS: I'm against invinc natural rifts, natural rift should just be a awesome res planet like natural dyson, no more
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Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:35 am |
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Asenth
Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:23 pm Posts: 24
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-1 theres a reason for natural dysons no need for rifts Dan loses money(obvously we don't care about that but he does). And why was this thread necroed
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TimeManipulator
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:13 pm Posts: 2711 Location: Somewhere trying to find a way to increase the use of Time Manipulators.
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-1 artifact/research/mining desperados. Just because there's natural exotic and dyson doesn't mean it has to have a natural rift. Want it? Then buy it. EDIT: Damn just noticed this was a necro'd topic. -.-"
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Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:28 pm |
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mysterion
Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:01 pm Posts: 1216
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I know -1 i made this when i was inexperienced all though having said it doesn't seem like a bad idea if had same stats as dysons because of new medals 
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Levrosh
Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:35 pm Posts: 1975
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What I would do, is to add them with the same resources ass natural Dysons, and split the chance of scanning between the two. Namely, if the chances of scanning a Dyson are 0.1%, the new chances of scanning will be 0.05% for Dyson, and 0.05% for Rift. That way, Dan should technically not lose any money, and we will get a cool looking extra planet.
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varunjitsingh146
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 am Posts: 5495 Location: Alpha Legion 100
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icarium81 wrote: heres why i see this never happening.
DAN LOSES ALL MONEY FROM THAT WHOLE CHAIN.
Why would you spend ANY money to get rifts, when you can just FIND THEM??
I've bought/stole/stole and STOLE, my way into my current arti production of 10K+/hr, and im able to purge about 40 planets a week on average... So I wait a few weeks, purge everything and scan another 300.... I'm not even 1/4 of the rank that the top people are. (im 324), and thats what I can manage. What do you think someone who is getting 3 or 4 times the arti production that i am is capable of? thats like saying Dan loses money cause there are natural dysons out there. natural rifts would have to be super rare and super hard to find. for all we know theres already one out there that no ones discovered. this idea gets a +1 from me.
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Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:33 pm |
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Enrique8076
Joined: Fri May 20, 2011 8:18 pm Posts: 496 Location: Fighting Evil
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+1 from me. Some people can not spend money on getting this or have better things to spend it on but I also agree with the idea of making them as rare as Dysons. And they're RARE AS HELL.
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Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:09 pm |
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Ruairi
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:37 am Posts: 614
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Uy23e wrote: awesome planets are not hamburgers which you can only eat so many of, you can never have too many.
WTF did you just say?
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Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:35 pm |
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Chloron
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:47 pm Posts: 1513
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mysterion wrote: Bluecifer wrote: If uber-rare, and can't be rifted again, then +1 yes it be 0.000001% chance of scanning They already exist and have this percent chance of scanning. Unfortunately no-one as found one yet. Keep trying! Perhaps you'll be the first!
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failname
Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:13 am Posts: 1695
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Chloron wrote: mysterion wrote: Bluecifer wrote: If uber-rare, and can't be rifted again, then +1 yes it be 0.000001% chance of scanning They already exist and have this percent chance of scanning. Unfortunately no-one as found one yet. Keep trying! Perhaps you'll be the first! if no one found one yet how can you know?
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itsSoulPLayAgain
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:30 am Posts: 4230
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Willeitner wrote: I like the idea of them being lower production then dysons but invincible. oh and people spent money to get dysons and they can make those. With races to make planets better having x2-x18ish Rifts out there Invincuble could be fun. But adding more x60's and crap to the game IDK. Scan Runs are lame as heck i have never see so many tiny POS! seems like buying and making planets is the way to go now.
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proteus33
Joined: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:16 pm Posts: 204
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dont knock scanning planets if nobody scanned planets how could we buy these natural dysons every so often. here is my idea have a scanable planet lets call it a proto rift it would look like a terra planet with rift energy and lightning around it stats would make out as thus one would be around 40 mr another 20 mr another 10 mr and size massive . quasi expanders could be used to build up size to mega colossal but first 2 times used you would lose 1 megarich point chosen randomly and the third time you use an expander it would take 3 megarich points also chosen randomly. also if you could hold onto protorift for 30days in a row then it would become a full rift world with plus 15 to all stats and either 20000 defense or invincible that way you got to hold onto it tight and work for your rift plus if you wanted it full size you would have to pay for 15o0 gp and lose 5 megarich points from stats. you win dan wins and you have the ability for 30 days to steal one from someone.
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SteveMcBob
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 374
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I dont like the idea of natural rifts, but heres an idea.
Make them invincible, and unable to be colonized.
That way they're just a cool thing (tm) to scan, and alert for the medal.
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:29 am |
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itsSoulPLayAgain
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:30 am Posts: 4230
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proteus33 wrote: dont knock scanning planets if nobody scanned planets how could we buy these natural dysons every so often. here is my idea have a scanable planet lets call it a proto rift it would look like a terra planet with rift energy and lightning around it stats would make out as thus one would be around 40 mr another 20 mr another 10 mr and size massive . quasi expanders could be used to build up size to mega colossal but first 2 times used you would lose 1 megarich point chosen randomly and the third time you use an expander it would take 3 megarich points also chosen randomly. also if you could hold onto protorift for 30days in a row then it would become a full rift world with plus 15 to all stats and either 20000 defense or invincible that way you got to hold onto it tight and work for your rift plus if you wanted it full size you would have to pay for 15o0 gp and lose 5 megarich points from stats. you win dan wins and you have the ability for 30 days to steal one from someone. Was that directed at me ?
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failname
Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:13 am Posts: 1695
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SteveMcBob wrote: I dont like the idea of natural rifts, but heres an idea.
Make them invincible, and unable to be colonized.
That way they're just a cool thing (tm) to scan, and alert for the medal. useless crap no point in having the medal then
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SteveMcBob
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 374
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failname wrote: SteveMcBob wrote: I dont like the idea of natural rifts, but heres an idea.
Make them invincible, and unable to be colonized.
That way they're just a cool thing (tm) to scan, and alert for the medal. useless crap no point in having the medal then Guess we can just reserve the medal for people willing to drop 100$ on a game then. Medal is worthless anyways.
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:47 pm |
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failname
Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:13 am Posts: 1695
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SteveMcBob wrote: failname wrote: SteveMcBob wrote: I dont like the idea of natural rifts, but heres an idea.
Make them invincible, and unable to be colonized.
That way they're just a cool thing (tm) to scan, and alert for the medal. useless crap no point in having the medal then Guess we can just reserve the medal for people willing to drop 100$ on a game then. Medal is worthless anyways. dude you can already scan occupied rifts , everyone can get the medal without paying
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