Advice on research please
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Veristek
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:30 am Posts: 1553
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Hey all, I was wondering if any of you guys had suggestions for me on what to research next.  I'm getting to the point where my hourly RP income will take 4+ days of production to get the better techs (45,000 RP's per increment) in my displayed research tree. Should I push ahead with energy? Research more hulls and get shields (because of the new shield rule)? Go for more planetary buildings? Cloak? What should I do? I'm Rank 70 at the moment.
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:26 am |
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Jarsyl
Joined: Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:27 pm Posts: 48
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Shield and stealth are important for keeping your planet safe. Stealth on your ship is nice because it keeps you off other players' battle tab.
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:03 am |
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Cothordin
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:49 am Posts: 2606 Location: Cowland
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Energy, energy, oh and did I mention energy? After that scanners definitely.
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:08 am |
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Veristek
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:30 am Posts: 1553
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I looked at the future energy costs. Singularity = 35k per increment, 140k RP total to master that tier. Zero Pont = 60k per increment, 240k RP total Dark Matter = 90k per increment, 360k RP tptal Intra D = 210k per increment, 840k RP total Supernova = 800k per increment, 3.6 million RP total Plus all the relays in-between these advances. How far should I research energy? I have about 500 RP per hour income. 
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:28 am |
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SpoonyJank
Joined: Fri May 14, 2010 7:20 pm Posts: 1178
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You may as well catch up on shields and stealth since it is so easy. I hope you are using mines for planet defense at least. Maybe hull too. Theres not much wrong with being ahead on energy research. I'm guessing better weapons would help with NPCs. Maybe neglect defense and sensors. I just research planet structures when I have too many credits.
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:59 am |
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Veristek
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:30 am Posts: 1553
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SpoonyJank wrote: You may as well catch up on shields and stealth since it is so easy. I hope you are using mines for planet defense at least. Maybe hull too. Theres not much wrong with being ahead on energy research. I'm guessing better weapons would help with NPCs. Maybe neglect defense and sensors. I just research planet structures when I have too many credits. I'm sitting on 110 million credits right now. I have 65 legion, so I get +65% to planet stats. I get plenty of Krios and Halycon traps from artifact shipments even though I only generate 300 artifacts per hour. I'm trying to finish research on Whipple Plating. What my tree doesn't show is that I finished the first section of Whipple, and have 2 more to go. As for weapons, I have 6 Heavy Plasma cannons and 1 Light Graviton Shearer (from weapons locker) and that nets me 440 attack, and I trash NPC's with around 100 damage a hit. The Stryll mission ship NPC and the other NPC's my level.
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:29 am |
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tk3
Joined: Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:37 pm Posts: 260
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I would catch up on stealth. It's a VERY good way to protect your planets. Shields wouldn't be bad either, as they're now quite good.
Mind if we ask your race and profession?
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:45 am |
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Blake
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:41 pm Posts: 40
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You have done plenty more research than me and I am about your level.
Having said that I have just started to focus some Rp on Shields and Stealth considering the recent changes.
Energy and Weapons are always a priority but sometimes you need to bring other branches into line.
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:21 pm |
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BrianGameAcct
Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:45 pm Posts: 510
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first go for research research research! What I mean is get to a level where you can install AI Network +5 under the Planetary Construction tree.
Then under the energy tree go for X Conduit.
This will permit you to gain 1000+/hr of research and recharge your energy in about 1minute given the other special conduits you will obtain along the way.
After this go for the others. Scanning is important because it keeps you from being critically hacked which gives away planets. At approximate rank 40 I was hacked and it revealed my best planet which was promptly stolen. I went after the guy and eventually after a long time critically hacked him and was revealed an even better planet -- I waited until I obtained a planet flux and then took that planet from him. His messages showed I really got to him especially since I fluxed the planet, supposedly it was his best planet, and my scan level was high enough that he couldn't critically hack me although he did try.
Also regularly receive mineral shipments and build up the credits -- you will be happy you did as you get the option to buy expensive ship/planet parts.
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:59 pm |
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Veristek
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:30 am Posts: 1553
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tk3 wrote: I would catch up on stealth. It's a VERY good way to protect your planets. Shields wouldn't be bad either, as they're now quite good.
Mind if we ask your race and profession? I'm a Siliyx Fixer (+10% decks and +20% hull) and I have about 400 decks on my ship. I've run into a wall for RP's. I have no more decent research planets on my planet scan and I have like 70 planets scanned. I've tried to trade good artifacts for research planets, and asking my legion for any they'd share. No luck. I have way too many mining planets, my mining per hour is about the same as my research per hour (500'ish). I don't want to risk hacking for RP's because I don't want to get gang raped if I hit a member of DOO or other big alliance. Finding players with a legion of <5 is rare for me. On a side note, I should finish Whipple Plating tier in a couple hours.
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:26 pm |
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tk3
Joined: Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:37 pm Posts: 260
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With resource production like that, you would be able to catch up on shields or stealth pretty quickly. Or, maybe start investing in scanners. That way you can find a few good research planets!
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:29 pm |
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Matress_of_evil
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Save up on artifact points for a while. If you're lucky, you might get some planet purgers. And remember to unequip all your modules that you don't need when you're scanning. Equip as many scan modules as you can and pay for the best you can afford. If you have any scanning artifacts, save them up for a big scan blitz.
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:43 pm |
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Veristek
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:30 am Posts: 1553
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tk3 wrote: With resource production like that, you would be able to catch up on shields or stealth pretty quickly. Or, maybe start investing in scanners. That way you can find a few good research planets! I have Quantum Resonance III's, and haven't done any scanning since I used Wideband Scanners (tier below Multiwave Resonance in my tree pic). Matress_of_evil wrote: Save up on artifact points for a while. If you're lucky, you might get some planet purgers. And remember to unequip all your modules that you don't need when you're scanning. Equip as many scan modules as you can and pay for the best you can afford. If you have any scanning artifacts, save them up for a big scan blitz. I keep my artifact points above 10,000 and stop collecting once it goes down past 10,000. Is that too high a thereshold? I have 17,000 artifact point cap. The best scanners I have are Quantum Resonance Scanner III's and should be able to fit 5 of them on my ship since it has 400 decks. By the way, is your avatar a Dalek?
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:33 pm |
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ODragon
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:16 am Posts: 3824
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Veristek wrote: I keep my artifact points above 10,000 and stop collecting once it goes down past 10,000. Is that too high a thereshold? I have 17,000 artifact point cap. Assuming the artifact list is correct, you should either be using artifacts at 6k or 16k. There doesn't appear to be anything you get in between that range. Personally, I was doing the 6k for a while but I think I'm going to move up to 16k as I would really like an ice melter, maybe even go to 20 because I can afford to let it get that high. I know chances are low for getting those two items but you gotta hope.
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:12 pm |
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Matress_of_evil
Joined: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:45 am Posts: 778
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Veristek wrote: I keep my artifact points above 10,000 and stop collecting once it goes down past 10,000. Is that too high a thereshold? I have 17,000 artifact point cap.
The best scanners I have are Quantum Resonance Scanner III's and should be able to fit 5 of them on my ship since it has 400 decks.
By the way, is your avatar a Dalek? I currently save up to 6k points, so you're saving more than me. I mentiond the above because I wasn't sure if you were collecting artifacts with each tick instead of saving up. If what Odragon says is true, then you might want to move to 16k. I might do the same as well, although my limit is currently 18k so there's not much breathing room there. You've got better scanners than me, as I only have Multiwave sensors. I've been focusing on Energy lately. I've got a slightly bigger ship than you though so i've got less of a space problem. As with my previous comment, I wasn't sure if you were a high or low level player so I was just covering the basics to make sure. My avatar is actually meant to be a Romulan (As in Star Trek). I had to shrink him down to fit on these forums so it's hard to see his pointy ears. This is the original version:  ...Not that's it's that much easier to see his ears lol. The little guy was made for me by a guy called Jigalypuff. If you're into Star trek gaming, you may have heard of Jig. Me and Jig are admins over on the Birth of the Federation 2 Forums. Actually Jig pays for and maintains those forums. A couple of years ago he made the Romulan guy and abused his admin powers by changing my avatar to the little guy. But I took the little guy, animated the image, and kept him as my permanent avatar. I've slowly been changing and improving the quality of the animation over the years (I use M$ Paint to do it).
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Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:35 pm |
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SpoonyJank
Joined: Fri May 14, 2010 7:20 pm Posts: 1178
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Right now I'm planning on getting 1.5 more levels of zero-point cores, then transconduits. After that I'm planning on researching the switch from +5 structures to +8, since I have 486m credits and 80 kurenite piled up. I think I'll distract myself with some cloaking so the satellites actually cost something and do something. I think it makes more sense to focus on domestic stuff first since there will always be someone more powerful, and it makes it easier to catch up on everything else at one's discretion.
I'm wondering what the mining % and level typically is for people that pick the "builder" profession.
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Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:08 pm |
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Veristek
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:30 am Posts: 1553
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Matress_of_evil, I'm curious. Are you in the Rank 70 - 80 range? I'm Rank 71, about to hit Rank 72. I've been putting all my rank-up points into Decks and am a Siliyx race, with Fixer profession (which gives me +10% decks and +20% hull). I've been putting the Rescued Prisoners and Daily Reward rank points into Cargo Holds.
In the meanwhile, I've decided to try and research Singularity tech's. Right now, I need 5 hours 45 minutes to do a full energy refill. I have 184 max energy (with Positron Relays equipped). I lose energy productivity if I sleep more than 6 hours. So I think if I go for Singularity, I can sleep overnight and not waste energy.
By the way, I have Birth of the Federation 1, and I loved it. Didn't know there was BOTF 2 out. I thought your avatar was a Dalek because its "dress" looks like the body of a Dalek (from Doctor Who) with the spheres and stuff.
SpoonyJank, I'm sitting on 135 million credits. I have way too many mining planets, but from what I've been told, the upper level buildings cost like 100 to 250 million each. Plus I'd need 1.5 billion to equip the best energy cores, and probaby billions more for everything else.
I'm lacking in research- my Mining production is almost equal to my research rate. From reading the forum people say that 50% research, 30% mining, and 20% artifact is ideal. My ratio right now is 35% research, 35% mining, and 30% artifacts.
Last edited by Veristek on Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:18 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:56 am |
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Robert
Joined: Fri May 07, 2010 12:43 am Posts: 1122
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Versitek, just curious, what rank are you? I would think pretty close to mine or a little higher because Ive got pretty similar reaearch(except Im up to EM adaptive materials, phase sheilds, and microgel armor, and Im lower on energy research)
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Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:07 am |
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Cothordin
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:49 am Posts: 2606 Location: Cowland
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Robert wrote: Versitek, just curious, what rank are you? Veristek wrote: I'm Rank 71, about to hit Rank 72. wow.........um........ya...........
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Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:13 am |
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Robert
Joined: Fri May 07, 2010 12:43 am Posts: 1122
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Oh, yeah, just 1 level above me, sorry didnt notice that.
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